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[tradosaurus]

Atmospheric refraction happens. You dont believe refraction of light happens when media density changes? Put a pencil inside a glass of water and the image will curve. The same happens with the Chicago skyline, the temperature inversion and density gradient of the atmosphere makes the light rays follow the curve.
The horizon is not flat

There is a small bump.
The sun moving through the sky does not resembles ANYTHING of what we would see if the earth was flat.
Evolution is off topic here.

Simply, the sun is less than 4,000 miles in diameter and much closer to earth (less than 10,000 miles).  The reason satellites don't see it is because satellites don't exist (google "satellite")

[Bob B.]

You BELIEVE that the earth is rotating faster than the speed of sound while hurdling 60,000 miles around the sun, while the solar system is moving even faster at insane speeds with absolutely no proof whatsoever, except that NASA says so.

Why the NASA obsession?  The motions of the Earth and planets where known centuries before NASA existed.

[frenat]

Another question that flat earthers can't seem to answer: why does a flight from Frankfurt to Singapore take 12.5 hours, when a flight from Singapore to Frankfurt, flying over the exact same trajectory takes 13.5 hours?

The real question should be why doesn't the flight against the supposed rotation of the earth ( take less than a few hours since the plane would be flying against 1,000 to 700 mph rotation (depending upon what latitude you were at)?

Why would the plane magically lose the velocity it had on the ground simply by taking off?  What force would cause that?

[Gazpar]

Atmospheric refraction happens. You dont believe refraction of light happens when media density changes? Put a pencil inside a glass of water and the image will curve. The same happens with the Chicago skyline, the temperature inversion and density gradient of the atmosphere makes the light rays follow the curve.
The horizon is not flat

There is a small bump.
The sun moving through the sky does not resembles ANYTHING of what we would see if the earth was flat.
Evolution is off topic here.

Simply, the sun is less than 4,000 miles in diameter and much closer to earth (less than 10,000 miles).  The reason satellites don't see it is because satellites don't exist (google "satellite")

I made a huge post explaining why that is not POSSIBLE that you dismissed entirely.
Satellites dont exist? How do you explain this:

[onebigmonkey]

Simply, the sun is less than 4,000 miles in diameter and much closer to earth (less than 10,000 miles).  The reason satellites don't see it is because satellites don't exist (google "satellite")

Oh OK, so my satellite dish is pointing at something 15000 miles further out than the sun yet somehow I get TV all day on it without it being blocked by something wider than the Atlantic.

[Zakalwe]

NASA was heavily influenced by the NAZI scientists brought over after WW2, with Werhner Von Braun as the lead engineer.

After WW2, Operation Paperclip brought over 1500 german scientists, engineers and technicians.  Of course we know that the Germans perfected the V2 rocket.

From http://www.sott.net/article/257398-The-NAZI-origins-of-NASA
"US President Harry Truman did not formally order the execution of Operation Paperclip until August 1945. Truman's order expressly excluded anyone found to have been a member of the Nazi Party, and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism. Said restriction would have rendered ineligible most of the scientists the JIOA had identified for recruitment, among them rocket scientists Wernher von Braun and Arthur Rudolph, and the physician Hubertus Strughold, each earlier classified as a menace to the security of the Allied Forces.
To circumvent President Trumans anti-Nazi order, and the Allied Potsdam and Yalta agreements, the JIOA worked independently to create false employment and political biographies for the scientists. The JIOA also expunged from the public record the scientists' Nazi Party memberships and régime affiliations. Once bleached of their Nazism, the US Government granted the scientists security clearance to work in the United States. Paperclip, the projects operational name, derived from the paperclips used to attach the scientists new political personæ to their US Government Scientist JIOA personnel files. "

Wernher von Braun, a member of the German SS in WW2, was credited for inventing the V2 rocket and later the Saturn V rocket.
Von Braun continued to entertain his engineer-scientist's dream of a future world in which rockets would be used for space exploration. However, instead of risking being sacked, he now was increasingly in a position to popularize these ideas.  In a few years NASA was born.

Thank you for acknowledging the question and responding. However, you have not answered the question that I asked. I asked this:

Can I have that source for your claim that NASA was founded by the German National Socialist party please tradosaurus?

which was in response to your claim that

NASA: founded by NAZI's and continuing the NAZI tradition of lies and deception. 

So again, please cite a reputable source for the claim or withdraw it.

[JayUtah]

I would give about as much credibility to atmospheric refraction...

Reciting the things you simply decide not to believe in doesn't make you credible.

[Cat Not Included]

So tradasaurus, care to go start a topic in "Other Conspiracies" covering:
A) Why in the world everyone who knew the Earth was flat would want to keep it secret.

B) A modern to-scale map of the flat-Earth world, accurately showing the relative sizes of all of the continents and the oceans.

C) What exactly satellites and the ISS are doing in a flat Earth model.

A) Simple:  control over you and your money.
B) Have you seen some of the supposed photos of the earth taken from space as given to us by NASA?  There aren't many at all which is strange given that there are supposedly 20,000 satellites in earth orbit. 
The continents depicted are not scales correctly (oopsy).  And here I thought water covered 75% of the earths surface.
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/618486main_earth_full.jpg
http://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/57000/57723/globe_east_540.jpg

C) Also as a mental exercise please google "Satellite" and see if you find actual pictures of a satellite.  With 20,000+ satellites in orbit you would think we could get more than composite drawings.

Please take the opportunity to either watch the video or read the book called "200 proofs that the Earth is not a spinning ball".

You seem to have missed the request to take it to the appropriate sub-forum.
Because I'm a nice guy, I've created a thread for you:
http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1067.0

[Ishkabibble]

Sagan was an atheist with an agenda and either really believed in the globe earth fantasy or intentionally deceived. 

That's it.

The breaking point.

Carl Sagan was one of the most brilliant scientists of our generation.

I absolutely will not sit here and deal with any two-bit moron who dares speak ill of him on a forum dedicated to science. I just won't do it.

I asked for a copy of your diploma demonstrating that you are a "degreed engineer" and I still don't see it.

Did you miss it the first time? If so, I ask again.

[Ishkabibble]

As a proud Apollo moon lander denier and a degreed Mechanical Engineer, I have a few questions to ask those that believe in NASA's story.   

I've read all the drivel you've posted, all the things you've ignored, and all the pathetic insults you've tried to sling, and my only recommendation to you is that you go back to wherever you claim you got this degree from, and demand a refund.

Either that or put up a copy of your diploma for proof. I haven't seen it, and I don't believe you have it, and unless you can prove it, I'll know you are some kind of dishonest shill.

Well, you showed me didn't you? 
Now why don't you use your brain and stop believing in the NASA religious mumbo jumbo.

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[Ishkabibble]

I have already explained it. Your pic is wrong.

First off, Your math is wrong because it does not includes some variables.
You forgot about:
1) Your eyes height. Your picture assumes they are at the same height as your toes.
2) Atmospheric refraction: it will rise the image of the buildings to some degrees and it is entirely weather dependant. The skyline has been reported to be seen on days with a particular weather.
3) It assumes the amount the curvature drops is the same as the amount of an object hidden by it. That is not the case.

If the earth was flat, the skyline and the shoreline should be visible but only the skyline is visible on every picture.
Assuming you are looking Chicago from the location you said and that your eyes are 6 ft above the ground, the earth curvature will hide 1470 ft of the object. If we assume our eyes are at the same height as our feet, we get 1674 ft.
Take the Willis Tower height: 1450 ft. To rise the image of the tower from 50 miles, lets say 500 ft, you would need 6 arcminutes of refraction or next to nothing.
If we assume your eyes are 30 ft above the ground, any building will need to be 1200 ft higher to be seen.
You have not given us any meaningful data about your elevation from that location.

Where is the shoreline?

[raven]

Tradosaurus, your hand waving about 'control over you and your money' is ludicrous. Just how does a globe world conspiracy accomplish this?
As for satellites, there's websites where you can find the timing for pass overs for satellites at any point in the globe. You say satellites are a myth?
Well, here's your chance to test such a bold claim.

[Cat Not Included]

I asked for a copy of your diploma demonstrating that you are a "degreed engineer" and I still don't see it.

Please understand that I'm not saying that I think tradosaurus has any relevant expertise, but I can't see any value in posting a diploma. All that would prove is that he was able to get a scan of a diploma, which in the internet age isn't a particularly difficult challenge to overcome. While not being able to produce it would be equally unremarkable. My college diploma has been buried somewhere in a box in my basement from when I last moved over a decade ago; I wouldn't bother searching for it for a random internet argument.

It don't see where it proves or disproves anything either way.

[raven]

A good point. An educated fool remains such, especially in areas outside their expertise, though there is things Tradosaurus should know if they are what they claim.

[onebigmonkey]

Earth as viewed in a sequence of images taken by Apollo 11 on the way to the moon.

Prove it isn't.