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Title: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: Geordie on May 09, 2017, 11:27:51 PM
 Hanford Emergency Information website (http://www.hanford.gov/c.cfm/eoc/?page=290)
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: gillianren on May 10, 2017, 11:47:33 AM
Eh.  It's hardly apocalyptic.  Of course, I live upwind from Hanford, but a friend of a friend works there.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: Geordie on May 10, 2017, 02:13:48 PM
  I agree. This line from the information website is telling: "No action is currently required for residents of counties surrounding the Hanford Site."

  I found it to be more of an item of interest, (it did make the local news here on the day of a general election,) than disastrous.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: VQ on May 10, 2017, 07:45:29 PM
  I agree. This line from the information website is telling: "No action is currently required for residents of counties surrounding the Hanford Site."

  I found it to be more of an item of interest, (it did make the local news here on the day of a general election,) than disastrous.

It is good that they were not hesitant to use their emergency shelter-in-place protocol while the risk was being assessed, though. Hanford is, objectively speaking, quite the mess.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: nomuse on May 10, 2017, 08:54:01 PM
A co-worker had CNN on the entire day. They've been proudly rolling out Michio Kaku as science advisor. Was he staying within known science? Let me just say if the next thing he warned of was the Blue Undead from original-edition Morrow Project it wouldn't be a reach.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: Geordie on May 11, 2017, 01:43:00 AM
It is good that they were not hesitant to use their emergency shelter-in-place protocol while the risk was being assessed, though. Hanford is, objectively speaking, quite the mess.

Quote from: Matt Meuse · CBC News · May 10, 2017
  'Andreas Christen, an associate professor in UBC's micrometeorology research group, said a cave-in event like this poses little risk to British Columbians, or even those near the site in Washington.
  (https://s19.postimg.org/pxoif95lf/2017-05-10_22.28.39.png)
  "We essentially need an explosion or a fire that ejects the material into the atmosphere [for contamination to spread]," Christen said. "It cannot simply evaporate from the source, so we are pretty safe."'

  '[...] It is the largest repository of nuclear waste in the United States, holding 211 million litres in underground storage tanks.'

  source (http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/british-columbia/hanford-repairs-1.4108031)
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: Glom on May 11, 2017, 03:06:50 AM
A co-worker had CNN on the entire day. They've been proudly rolling out Michio Kaku as science advisor. Was he staying within known science? Let me just say if the next thing he warned of was the Blue Undead from original-edition Morrow Project it wouldn't be a reach.
These celeb scientists do find it too irresistible to go tabloid for the sake of their own ratings.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: Geordie on May 11, 2017, 09:09:53 AM
A co-worker had CNN on the entire day. They've been proudly rolling out Michio Kaku as science advisor. Was he staying within known science? Let me just say if the next thing he warned of was the Blue Undead from original-edition Morrow Project it wouldn't be a reach.
These celeb scientists do find it too irresistible to go tabloid for the sake of their own ratings bank balance.

  FTFY  ;)
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: gillianren on May 11, 2017, 12:35:59 PM
For the curious, that green stripe down the state is the Cascades.  So not only am I upwind here in Olympia, there are mountains in the way.

On the other hand, I found out yesterday that a friend has religious objections of a sort to splitting atoms--it's not about danger for her; it's a belief that we should leave atoms whole.  I don't know what to say to her about that, so I just kept scrolling.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: VQ on May 12, 2017, 12:18:43 AM
For the curious, that green stripe down the state is the Cascades.  So not only am I upwind here in Olympia, there are mountains in the way.

But the blue stripe is the Columbia River, which flows past Hanford and then along the WA/OR border, through Portland, and to the Pacific. Some of the liquid waste at Hanford is still too radioactive to robotically photograph, so changes in containment command attention.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: gillianren on May 12, 2017, 10:58:31 AM
Past Hanford, maybe, but Hanford is big, and it's not as though the containment is on the riverbank.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: Halcyon Dayz, FCD on May 12, 2017, 12:49:52 PM
On the other hand, I found out yesterday that a friend has religious objections of a sort to splitting atoms--it's not about danger for her; it's a belief that we should leave atoms whole.  I don't know what to say to her about that, so I just kept scrolling.
We only spilt suicidal atoms.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: Geordie on May 12, 2017, 04:14:08 PM
On the other hand, I found out yesterday that a friend has religious objections of a sort to splitting atoms--it's not about danger for her; it's a belief that we should leave atoms whole.  I don't know what to say to her about that, so I just kept scrolling.
We only spilt suicidal atoms.
  The split and about to be split atoms need only to leave it to the Lord:

Quote from: Paul the Apostle, 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24, Bible in Basic English
23 May God himself, the God who makes everything holy and whole, make you holy and whole, put you together - spirit, soul, and body - and keep you fit for the coming of our Master, Jesus Christ. 24 The One who called you is completely dependable. If he said it, he'll do it!
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Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: Geordie on May 12, 2017, 04:36:46 PM
For the curious, that green stripe down the state is the Cascades.  So not only am I upwind here in Olympia, there are mountains in the way.

But the blue stripe is the Columbia River, which flows past Hanford and then along the WA/OR border, through Portland, and to the Pacific. Some of the liquid waste at Hanford is still too radioactive to robotically photograph, so changes in containment command attention.

This article seems to represent the worst case scenario:

 Conroy, B. (2015, March 28) Wine Country’s Nuclear Threat, retrieved from The Daily Beast (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/28/hanford-nuclear-site-could-be-threatening-washington-state-s-best-vineyards)

Quote
  The Hanford Site, a former nuclear-weapons production facility located in southeastern Washington State near the Oregon border, is one natural disaster away from a Fukushima-like catastrophe, according to environmental groups who also claim the site—which sits near some of the state’s best vineyards—is leaking radioactive groundwater into the nearby Columbia River.
Title: Re: 'Take cover' emergency declared at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
Post by: gillianren on May 13, 2017, 11:26:39 AM
Apparently, the breach in containment involved a place where they're storing contaminated equipment, not any kind of waste that could get into the river, which is miles away in any case.