Apollo Discussions > The Hoax Theory
American Moon by Massimo Mazzucco
Mag40:
Many on here are familiar with the internet failure who calls himself Rocky/Cosmored/Scott/Fatfreddy, but I've been lurking on the Political Forum where he routinely gets his arguments destroyed by a bloke called Betamax101. So it was with much joy that his latest forage into his online humiliation actually uncovered a gem of irrefutable proof.
On the American Moon video at 2:07:20 the announcer begins by showing the rover completely covered in dust and this is clearly the case. It is all around the area where that box is(I have no idea what the box is). He then shows the box lid being pushed shut and the tiniest of puffs occurs on the corner. Now his argument is that if it was a vibration(and clearly it is) how come nowhere else was disturbed, but, and it is a great big but, he fails to realise that the falling lid creates a draft that would blow dust everywhere. It doesn't.
Just that tiny clip proves they are in a vacuum and it is a segment from a longer sequence - if anyone cares to identify from where that would make this even more conclusive that it was on the Moon.
onebigmonkey:
Dammit now I had to go find it :D
It's at the start of EVA-2, the battery covers were left open at the end of the EVA to allow them to cool off and then covered over again at the start.
Here's the relevant bit of the ALSJ:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16.eva2prelim.html
--- Quote ---143:08:00 Duke: John, make sure that I did all the things on (the ETB unload on CDR-5)...The ETB is emptied, and magazine Lima is on the camera - (the) 500 - and all the other film is stowed.
[A puff of dust flies off the battery cover as it falls shut. John then presses the cover with his right hand.]
--- End quote ---
and a link to the relevant video here https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16v.1430752.mpg
Mag40:
--- Quote from: onebigmonkey on October 23, 2020, 04:23:29 PM ---Dammit now I had to go find it :D
It's at the start of EVA-2, the battery covers were left open at the end of the EVA to allow them to cool off and then covered over again at the start.
Here's the relevant bit of the ALSJ:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16.eva2prelim.html
--- Quote ---143:08:00 Duke: John, make sure that I did all the things on (the ETB unload on CDR-5)...The ETB is emptied, and magazine Lima is on the camera - (the) 500 - and all the other film is stowed.
[A puff of dust flies off the battery cover as it falls shut. John then presses the cover with his right hand.]
--- End quote ---
and a link to the relevant video here https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16v.1430752.mpg
--- End quote ---
You've got much more patience than me, I gave up after half an hour! It is so obvious that the dust is on the side of the bottom bit. It just falls off from the lid banging down. Does anyone know what the cylindrical thing is just in front of the battery cover? It looks caked in dust.
onebigmonkey:
At a guess it's the steering motor. The mechanism for turning the wheels is an interesting subject in itself, and one which a certain Welsh idiot made a spectacular fool of himself over recently.
onebigmonkey:
The Political Forum thread has gish-galloped away away from American Moon and has brought in the 'spotlights in visors' nonsense, particularly this one, AS12-48-7071:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21469415470/in/album-72157658982137872/
I've often wondered what caused that one, and Betamax attrbutes it to a smudge on the visor. Entirely likely, but then I spotted the folds of the helmet cover along the edge of the visor. If you invert the 'smudge' in the visor and place it alongside the material immediately above it, you get this:
It looks to me like the smudge is more like a reflection of the stuff above the visor. Reasonable? Spotted a million times already?
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