Aulis - different thinking (where ignorance = expertise)

[onebigmonkey]

China, India and Japan have all got images online of Hadley, and none of them contain anything that shows anything amiss with the area - quite the reverse, they confirm that the details in Apollo images are genuine.

If you want some fun on a dull day, try having a play with this

http://wms.selene.darts.isas.jaxa.jp/3dmoon_e/index_e.html

[Glom]

Besides, if they're faking pictures of a place with one, count 'em, one primary light source, why even add @#&%-ing fill lights?!

Whistle-blower. That's their thing. All anomalies which are stupid are just put in there by whistle-blowers. Of course, if these anomalies are some sort of artificial da vinci code, then they could have been put in for any reason and to real moonlanding photos.

Yes Aulis are quite illucid

I'm surprised they're still carrying on in 2016. Apollohoax is so noughties. It's just a big joke now to even those who would have entertained the idea a decade ago.

[bknight]

Whistle-blower. That's their thing. All anomalies which are stupid are just put in there by whistle-blowers. Of course, if these anomalies are some sort of artificial da vinci code, then they could have been put in for any reason and to real moonlanding photos.

Yes Aulis are quite illucid

I'm surprised they're still carrying on in 2016. Apollohoax is so noughties. It's just a big joke now to even those who would have entertained the idea a decade ago.

It is still in their financial benefit to continue the nonsense as they sell DVD's, books etc.  That may never go away, same with Marcus Allen and Bart Sibrel

[JayUtah]

Most conspiracy theories tend to recycle on a roughly ten-year schedule.  It's about time for a resurgence.

And yes, "I'm not an expert in any way, but that qualifies me even more to criticize something," is the mantra of the terminally stupid.

[raven]

Most conspiracy theories tend to recycle on a roughly ten-year schedule.  It's about time for a resurgence.

And yes, "I'm not an expert in any way, but that qualifies me even more to criticize something," is the mantra of the terminally stupid.

I can see a twisted kind of logic to it. If they assume, or at least claim to, that anyone with any kind of expertise must be on the take (they must be, or they would have revealed it) then someone with no expertise must be the only one you can trust.
Of course, the Orwellian irony of the whole thing just flies over their heads.

[JayUtah]

I can see a twisted kind of logic to it.

You are entirely correct.  Conspiracism is a social, political, and pscyhological construct that reinforces the ego of proponents and adherents.  Where a conspiracy theory involves specialized knowledge, the proponent claims to have it ("I'm a specialist in X"), that it's not necessary ("Common sense says X is false"), or that it's overshadowed by political concerns ("The powers that be are hiding the truth about X").  The polemical structure then attempts to divide critics into two categories:  those who don't have the knowledge to refute the claim and those who are politically dishonest.  The proponent then occupies the singular position of sufficient expertise coupled with political purity.  This has the psychological effect of reinforcing the ego of the proponent, and also the rhetorical effect of shaping the discussion into a no-win situation from the critic's perspective.

Very often we find that discussion which start out on a technical footing quickly devolve into political accusations when the proponent can't hold up his end of the technical debate.

[raven]

Which is why I am so insistent on not being insulting to even the worst conspiracy theorist and hoax mongers. Not that I am always successful at keeping to my own creed,but why take the game down to their own level? Anyone can insult, but only the truth has facts.
Besides, there is something deliciously devious about calmly presenting your case to a foaming mouthed demagogue. It probably won't convince them, but damn it's fun!

[bknight]

Which is why I am so insistent on not being insulting to even the worst conspiracy theorist and hoax mongers. Not that I am always successful at keeping to my own creed,but why take the game down to their own level? Anyone can insult, but only the truth has facts.
Besides, there is something deliciously devious about calmly presenting your case to a foaming mouthed demagogue. It probably won't convince them, but damn it's fun!

It is difficult indeed to keep calm and refrain from blurting out a bunch of unprofessional behavior to them.  I am always chastising the YT crowd concerning foul language, it just isn't necessary.  I have been called many things but refuse to drop into the gutter with them.  Truth and logic don't seem to make any headway with some.  Stupid burns brightly with those individuals.

[raven]

It is difficult indeed to keep calm and refrain from blurting out a bunch of unprofessional behavior to them.  I am always chastising the YT crowd concerning foul language, it just isn't necessary.  I have been called many things but refuse to drop into the gutter with them.  Truth and logic don't seem to make any headway with some.  Stupid burns brightly with those individuals.

I'm glad to work in text. I can write out my rants and insults, get it all out of my system, and then . . . delete it all and start again with a rational minded response.