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Offline profmunkin

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JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« on: April 11, 2012, 03:59:22 PM »
Would anyone care to discuss multiple shooters in the assassination of JFK?
Assassination team of 3 shooters, positioned in 3 locations.

Would anyone care to discuss this or any other details from this tragedy?

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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 04:13:01 PM »
Okay, let's.  Explain how this is physically possible and fits with the known evidence without resorting to ludicrous, overblown conspiracies which would be revealed in about six weeks.
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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 04:47:29 PM »
Ground rules?
Are you are implying "known evidence" as only that evidence which is contained within or accepted in the Warren Commission report, HSCA or AARB?
Will it be acceptable to present evidence not contained within the WC, HSCA or AARB?

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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 05:18:57 PM »
Depends.  Are the sources reliable?  Has the source changed its story?  How speculative is the source?  Does it require believing that everyone's motives are always pristine unless they say the opposite of what you want to hear, in which case they're always soiled?
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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 08:00:21 PM »
Go for it.  Make your case.  Explain what other investigators have overlooked or misinterpreted and why your interpretation is better than the wade array of professionals that have come to the one shooter conclusion.  It is a daunting task.  Do you feel up to it.  Remember, the burden of proof lies purely with you.
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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 08:19:16 PM »
Assassination team of 3 shooters, positioned in 3 locations.

We only have concrete evidence of one firearm used.  The Carcano was found in the TSBD along with three expended brass cases.  I am not aware of any other locations containing any evidence of firearms or shooters. 

While a few people pointed to locations other than the TSBD as the location of gunshots, I would surprised if they did not.  The sonic boom of a bullet moving faster than 1150 fps echoes off of anything nearby. 

What evidence do you have?  You have a firearm, ammo, actual eye witness that says they saw a gun being fired?  Perhaps a shooter confessing?

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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2012, 10:33:15 PM »
It's my understanding that the acoustics of Dealey Plaza are uncertain at the best of times.  Add to that adrenaline and people unfamiliar with the area, and it's actually kind of surprising to realize that a majority of witnesses still identified three shots as coming from the general vicinity of the TSBD.
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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 11:41:57 AM »
The Dallas police were tipped off concerning Lee Harvey Oswald being the shooter within 15 minutes after the assassination.
Who knew Oswald was the assassin, who tipped off the police?

The police went to the the boarding house to find Oswald, where did they get this address?

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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 12:35:11 PM »
Oswald protested on behalf of Fair Play for Cuba. (which according to FBI / WC evidence did not have a branch in N.O.)
Address on flyer's that Oswald handed out on behalf of Fair Play for Cuba was in / adjacent to Guy Banisters office.
Guy Banister was former head of Chicago FBI office.

Oswald was arrested after a "staged" confrontation with DRE.
At the station Oswald requested to talk to the FBI.

After an agent from the FBI talked with Oswald, he was immediately released.
Oswald, proclaimed Communist was then awarded media time to express it's virtues.

Oswald when arrested, had a phone book with the name and phone number of FBI agent James Hosty.
Oswald was an FBI informant, this fact was denied by Hoover to the WC.
Oswald phone book, evidence given to WC by the FBI had 1 page torn out, that had Hosty information.
Who was funding Oswald while he demonstrated in N.O.?

The leader of DRE in 1963 was George Joannides, who was connected with the CIA

Jumping forward George Joannides was identified as being present at the Ambassador Hotel the night RFK was assassinated.

Were there any members of Fair Play for Cuba that were called to give testimony to the WC?

What is the possible motive for Oswald to want JFK dead, JFK may have been the only friend to Cuba in the U.S. government?

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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2012, 01:27:27 PM »
If I gave you answers to your questions, would you listen?  Because I'm not going to waste my time with someone who'll just say, "Nuh uh!"
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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 01:31:18 PM »
What is the possible motive for Oswald to want JFK dead, JFK may have been the only friend to Cuba in the U.S. government?

JFK was a friend to Cubans who wanted to get rid of Castro, not much of a friend to Castro supporters (like Lee Harvey Oswald).
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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 02:10:43 PM »
Yes Gillianren, if you can re butt the points that have been made with evidence.
Let me offer one more loop.
1960 Nixon was chairman of the 5412 committee, covert affairs.
At his request, through Howard Hughes, S-Force was created, , basically assassination teams, intended to kill Cuban government officials.
Money for this S-Force was funneled through an account belonging to Manual Ogarrio Daguerre at Banco International in Mexico.
Five assassination teams were trained at a ranch owned by Clint Murchison.

Bay of Pigs was a failure, but commanded by Rip Robertson and Grayston Lynch - more later on this. 
Two of the Five assassination teams were commanded by Frank Sturgis and E Howard Hunt. - more later.
->E Howard Hunt informed his son through a taped confession that he was in Dealey Plaza the day of the assassination, as a bench warmer for the assassination team, just in case.

Mertchison, Nixon, Hoover and LBJ had a closed door meeting at Murchison's estate the night before the assassination, at the conclusion of the meeting LBJ delcared to his mistress, something to the effect that things would change the next day concerning the Kennedy's.

The kicker is that in 1972 the Democratic party appointed Larry O'Brien, former chief lobbyist for Howard Hughes.
Nixon gets paranoid, sends in the plumbers to see if Larry knows about S-force & JFK assassination.
Plumbers are caught, Bernard Barker has a recent cancelled check in his pocket from Manual Ogarrio Daguerre at Banco International in Mexico.

When Felt from the FBI is told to investigate, Nixon is informed and tells CIA to tell FBI to lay off. Felt won't stop, maybe he see's the connection, Felt is "Deep Throat"




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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2012, 02:16:01 PM »
This may be interesting
arrested or being escorted out of the area?
Frank Sturgis
Charles Harrelson - known hit man - later convicted of murdering a federal judge. (father of Woody)
E Howard Hunt. - picture varified to be E Howard Hunt by his son St John Hunt.
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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2012, 02:19:54 PM »
Did you ever notice where they were being escorted from?
The Texas School book Depository

Do I need to post their individual pictures?
Are we in agreement that these 3 men if not the men claimed are stand-in look a likes?

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Re: JFK - 3 shooters 6 shots
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2012, 03:01:16 PM »
Back to Rip Robertson and his co-commander Graytson Lynch of the failed Bay o Pigs invasion .
Here is Rip Robertson tipping his hat as JFK limo passes just about to trun onto Elm Street, Grayston Lynch is at his side.
Again do I need to post their pictures?