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Apollo Discussions => The Reality of Apollo => Topic started by: Mag40 on August 29, 2014, 08:43:25 AM
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HBs always go on about how NASA managed to send 6 faultless missions to the Moon. But obviously this ignores all the numerous things that went wrong. I thought a good idea to put all the problems encountered, into one thread(unless you guys have done this before ;D).
So to get the ball rolling -
Apollo 11, the two alarms 1201 and 1202 caused by the radar overloading(?), the switch breaking off needing an improvised pen.
Apollo 12 lightning strike - SCE to aux.
Apollo 13 well documented.
Apollo 14 Docking Probe Capture Latch Engagement problem.
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I seem to recall a battery overheating problems with the Lunar rover on Apollo 16?
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There was also an incident with Apollo 10 which started flipping due to (I thought) an incorrect switch setting (besides that 'other' incident on Apollo 10):
http://books.google.nl/books?id=y_16I8NzSjEC&pg=PA381&lpg=PA381&dq=apollo+10+flip++Cernan&source=bl&ots=lJEvuUR4QG&sig=I5a9cchoxYIMb3hS-3NOGgXXL5s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sIAAVKbpLMex0AWk_4CgCg&ved=0CHMQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=apollo%2010%20flip%20%20Cernan&f=false
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It's worth including Mercury and Gemini as well - most HBs seem unaware of those programs.
Gemini 8 - Agena's attitude control problem, which led to the mission being aborted and could have killed the astronauts.
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And I guess Apollo 1 shouldn't be left out either.
Is there a way to put this all in the opening post?
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Apollo 12 Failure of color TV camera.
Apollo 14 LM computer wrongly receiving abort signal, failure of LM landing radar to initially lock on.
Apollo 16 Failure in an SPS engine backup system that delayed lunar landing.
Apollo 17 Damaged LRV fender.
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Apollo 16:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16.landing.html
3 separate problems - 6hr delay to landing.
"Ken Mattingly felt his spacecraft begin to shake when he checked the backup servo-mechanical system associated with the yaw axis."
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If we include crew health issues,
Apollo 7 Head colds by all crewmembers.
Apollo 8 Frank Borman's nausea and diarrhea.
Apollo 9 Rusty Schweickart's nausea, which nearly curtailed the mission.
Apollo 15 Jim Irwin's dangerously elevated heart rate
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Apollo 13's second stage premature center engine cut off. :)
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Didn't John Young disable a science experiment by accidently tearing a cable with his foot?
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Apollo 13's second stage premature center engine cut off. :)
I'm entering into the conspiracy mindset, a journey into the Twilight Zone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk)
'Yeah, but they had to tell story so it did not look perfect, and this is an obvious anomaly in their story because if the centre engine cut off they would not have managed to make LEO.
Leaving the twilight zone now. In some of the examples it might be worth posting a rebuttal too. Some of them are obviously not worth a rebuttal, such as breaking experiments and TV cameras not working (IMHO), but some might be worth explaining as we might inadvertently offer further fuel to stoke the fire.
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Didn't John Young disable a science experiment by accidently tearing a cable with his foot?
Yes, he did. I remember having this discussion with someone and thinking how must the poor Cdr Young felt. He broke a cable to a heat flow sensor and ruined a lunar experiment. I feel sorry for the scientist involved, as reported here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-lancashire/plain/A481277).
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I'm entering into the conspiracy mindset, a journey into the Twilight Zone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk)
'Yeah, but they had to tell story so it did not look perfect, and this is an obvious anomaly in their story because if the centre engine cut off they would not have managed to make LEO.
Even that they get incorrect. One engine cutting off early is no issue...you just burn the other engines for longer.
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Didn't John Young disable a science experiment by accidently tearing a cable with his foot?
Yes, he did. I remember having this discussion with someone and thinking how must the poor Cdr Young felt. He broke a cable to a heat flow sensor and ruined a lunar experiment. I feel sorry for the scientist involved, as reported here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-lancashire/plain/A481277).
You can hear in the audio he's pretty contrite. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GzRwWgcFQM)
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You can hear in the audio he's pretty contrite. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GzRwWgcFQM)
That was painful listening, I felt really sorry for Young and the guys back on Earth. No one really knew what to say.
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You can hear in the audio he's pretty contrite. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GzRwWgcFQM)
That was painful listening, I felt really sorry for Young and the guys back on Earth. No one really knew what to say.
Nope. You come over a quarter of a million miles to set up this millions of dollars, in then money, experiment and . . . you trip over one of cords, breaking it. At least the gold visor hides your face. :-[
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Sorry, correction - the Gemini 8 mission attitude problem was in the Gemini itself, not the Agena.
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Gemini 5's fuel cells did not perform as expected, resulting in a lot of things being turned off and making meeting the '8 days or bust goal' uncertain.
Gemini 6 had a launch failure when the Titan shut down prematurely. I believe that was due to a dust cover being left in an engine component.
Gemini 9's EVA was aborted when Cernan's overexertion caused the visor to fog up so he was blinded, and a thermal protection layer on his suit tore, leaving him sunburned on his lower back.
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I'm entering into the conspiracy mindset, a journey into the Twilight Zone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk)
'Yeah, but they had to tell story so it did not look perfect, and this is an obvious anomaly in their story because if the centre engine cut off they would not have managed to make LEO.
Even that they get incorrect. One engine cutting off early is no issue...you just burn the other engines for longer.
Crap, Apollo 6 (the second unmanned Saturn V test) made it into orbit with two S-II engines out. A very near thing, and iirc the pogo issue would have forced an an abort on a manned mission, but it did stagger it's way into an ugly *** orbit.
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http://er.jsc.nasa.gov/seh/Ap10.html
Apollo 10:
Insulation in the docking tunnel had come loose earlier in the flight and clogged a vent; the incident had let the LM slip about 3.5° out of line with the CSM in its joined position.
A Guidance System Problem:
At the low point of the LM's second swing around the moon, Stafford and Cernan prepared for insertion into rendezvous orbit, a delicate maneuver using the LM's ascent engine, to bring them up for a rendezvous and docking with Young in the CSM. Before firing the ascent engine, the descent stage, with its power plant capable of a wide range of power settings controlled by the crew, had to be cast off. Just before the lower segment was cut loose, the LM gyrated. Stafford took manual control of the LM and restored the proper orientation. Then the descent stage was jettisoned, as planned, and the LM stabilized. The episode took some eight seconds.
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I seem to recall reading something about one of the astronauts losing a tool or some important piece of equipment on the moon. He thought he'd put it in a box (on the LRV?) but couldn't find it when he went to get it. Apparently they didn't want to spend too much precious time looking for it.
Anyone recall something like that?
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I seem to recall reading something about one of the astronauts losing a tool or some important piece of equipment on the moon. He thought he'd put it in a box (on the LRV?) but couldn't find it when he went to get it. Apparently they didn't want to spend too much precious time looking for it.
Anyone recall something like that?
Are you maybe thinking about the camera timer that Alan Bean and Pete Conrad brought to the Moon but couldn't find?
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I seem to recall reading something about one of the astronauts losing a tool or some important piece of equipment on the moon. He thought he'd put it in a box (on the LRV?) but couldn't find it when he went to get it. Apparently they didn't want to spend too much precious time looking for it.
Anyone recall something like that?
Are you maybe thinking about the camera timer that Alan Bean and Pete Conrad brought to the Moon but couldn't find?
I think that is it, because it was Pete Conrad I was thinking of.
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I have a vague memory (damn, I hate getting old) of an internet page listing all the "anomalies" for all the Apollo missions...
I know I read it, but I don't know how to find it.
I keep thinking it was at the ALSJ, but can't find it there, either.
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Each of the Preliminary Mission Reports contains a section on hardware anomalies.
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Each of the Preliminary Mission Reports contains a section on hardware anomalies.
Although I seem to remember it being all on one page, it is likely that it is the Mission reports that I am remembering.