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AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« on: February 17, 2015, 08:31:56 PM »
I have some hoax proponent complaining about the size of the earth in AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384, does anyone know what the focal length of the lenses were used on those magazines?

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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 08:44:23 PM »
I have some hoax proponent complaining about the size of the earth in AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384, does anyone know what the focal length of the lenses were used on those magazines?

AS11-44-6550, look through https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11.photidx.pdf

According to the Table on Page 90 - 250 mm.
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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 08:55:26 PM »
AS17-134-20384, would appear to be 60 mm. I've cross referenced two sources.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS17-134-20384

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19750006600.pdf

Hopefully others can confirm to keep me honest. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hat  :o
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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 08:56:32 PM »
Cheers Luke,
That document is great :)

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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2015, 08:58:49 PM »
Cheers Luke,
That document is great :)

That's OK, but I'd double check with others. As ka9q always says: Apollo is the most documented event in history, and as Jay says, there's more material about Apollo than one person can read in a lifetime. Which makes me think there are 100 ka9q's and 100 Jay's because they know far too much.
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I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people – Sir Isaac Newton.

A polar orbit would also bypass the SAA - Tim Finch

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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2015, 09:08:42 PM »
That's OK, but I'd double check with others. As ka9q always says: Apollo is the most documented event in history, and as Jay says, there's more material about Apollo than one person can read in a lifetime. Which makes me think there are 100 ka9q's and 100 Jay's because they know far too much.

Hmm, you might be onto something there.
They know far too much to be just one person....
Clearly the Illuminati have been cloning them for some nefarious purpose.

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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2015, 10:50:24 PM »
Corresponding A17 photo index confirms 60mm lens on AS17-134-20384

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/a17.photidx.pdf

And the images look correct for 60 vs 250 mm

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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2015, 12:28:25 AM »
The usual complaint is that the Earth is HUGE, so in the photos it should be HUGE but it's TINY. I'm guessing here that the complaint is that in one of them the Earth is TINY, but in the other it is HUGE - OMG!!!

My stock response is for them to go out and take a photo of the moon and report back on how big it looks in the image. In this case they would obviously need to take two different photos, and as they never manage to take one they would never manage to take another one on a different 'zoom'. They must wonder what kind of devil worship is occurring when they see people change lenses.

Why oh why didn't Father Ted cover this one as well as 'Small, far away"...?

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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2015, 05:16:08 AM »
Exactly. I took this with a 300 mm lens, yet when I use an 18-55 mm lens and frame the moon its smaller. For some reason, it's all a mystery. Lenses eh, they do funny things to light that seem peculiar to the CTs.
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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2015, 09:29:52 AM »
The usual complaint is that the Earth is HUGE, so in the photos it should be HUGE but it's TINY. I'm guessing here that the complaint is that in one of them the Earth is TINY, but in the other it is HUGE - OMG!!!

My stock response is for them to go out and take a photo of the moon and report back on how big it looks in the image. In this case they would obviously need to take two different photos, and as they never manage to take one they would never manage to take another one on a different 'zoom'. They must wonder what kind of devil worship is occurring when they see people change lenses.

Why oh why didn't Father Ted cover this one as well as 'Small, far away"...?
HaHa, I have used that clip so often. But really, be honest, would you choose to explain focal lengths to Fr. Dougal?

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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2015, 11:12:15 AM »
Exactly. I took this with a 300 mm lens, yet when I use an 18-55 mm lens and frame the moon its smaller. For some reason, it's all a mystery. Lenses eh, they do funny things to light that seem peculiar to the CTs.

Moon 18th April


And one that I took at 800mm.
Sheesh...someone must be moving the Moon back and forth..... ::)
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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2015, 12:20:04 PM »
That a wonderful picture. I viewed it using the Flickr link you posted, the detail is stunning. Very impressive. I've been playing with the other end of the spectrum and trying my hand at macrophotography. I've had some neat results so far, but it's been a bit hit and miss. All my macro is in a natural setting rather than killing bugs and stacking images.

Here's the moon I took with a 1 mm lens.

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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2015, 02:18:37 PM »
My friends and I have a theory that Jay is a collective, like the Borg.  But would a collective have its birthday on the IMDb Big List o' Birthdays for today?
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Re: AS11-44-6550 and AS17-134-20384
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2015, 03:53:35 PM »
My friends and I have a theory that Jay is a collective, like the Borg.  But would a collective have its birthday on the IMDb Big List o' Birthdays for today?
Of course. The Jay collective must have started on some day, right? <snigger>

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2015, 04:54:14 PM »
Of course. The Jay collective must have started on some day, right? <snigger>

You know the old hypothetical probability argument? If you have 1,000,000 chimps at 1,000,000 typewriters there is chance one of them will write the Complete Works of Shakespeare. Imagine 1,000,000 Jays at 1,000,000 word processors... my God, it explains his ubiquitous presence at every Apollo thread on the internet. Surely not, surely he is not a Borg-like species  :o
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein.

I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people – Sir Isaac Newton.

A polar orbit would also bypass the SAA - Tim Finch