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General Discussion / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by raven on April 03, 2025, 06:37:08 PM »
Clearly, those penguins are up to something. Feathers McGraw shall have his revenge!
Again!
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General Discussion / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by Peter B on April 03, 2025, 05:16:42 PM »
Well, now we got a fun little trade war going on with you guys, eh?
That'll aboot bring down the price of eggs, fer sure, eh?
Gods, this timeline gets dumber and dumber with each day.

Well, at least most of Australia has largely escaped the worst of the new tariffs, at 10%. Australia's territory of Norfolk Island will instead cop a 29% tariff...which doesn't make a lot of sense seeing as it apparently doesn't export anything to the USA.

Making even less sense is specifically listing Heard and McDonald Islands for a 10% tariff. First, the islands are another Australian territory, so why bother listing them separately from Australia? Second, they're uninhabited...by humans anyway.
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General Discussion / Re: NASA is lying for Trump
« Last post by jfb on April 02, 2025, 07:02:24 PM »
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Making Butch and Suni part of Crew 9 was a smart, efficient, and fiscally responsible decision... something that you would think Elon Musk, head of DOGE, would appreciate.

You know this, and I know you know this, because anyone with an IQ north of a turnip's knows this, but government isn't supposed to be efficient, it's supposed to be accountable, and DOGE is doing it's damndest to destroy any and all accountability for this administration.

They are going to break things so badly that it cannot be fixed.  We're looking at a couple of decades in the wilderness of strongmen and juntas, and when we come out the other side any new Constitution had better include some mandatory trigger clauses, along with a re-think of checks and balances.  We can't rely on the honor system, and we can't rely on the American people electing someone with a sense of shame (Mencken may have been an elitist asshole, but he wasn't wrong). 

Oh well, I guess 250 years was a good run. 
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General Discussion / Re: NASA is lying for Trump
« Last post by Dalhousie on April 01, 2025, 02:44:46 AM »
Looks like NASA is now just become more of a money pit for SpaceX.

Despite multiple failures and not one actual orbital success Starship is added to their launch service offerings?

https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-awards-launch-services-contract-for-spacex-starship/

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by Obviousman on March 31, 2025, 03:59:35 PM »
BZ?

BZ = Bravo Zulu = Naval terminology / signal flags for "Well Done!"
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by TimberWolfAu on March 30, 2025, 10:42:26 PM »
Oh dear, Jarrah isn't happy about the above posts.

Apparently I  know that I'm lying when I document his claims about the 3 legged lander. I have stated that his three legged claims were based on the low resolution images. That is true, that's what I said. He points out that he did a follow up article that "proves" that even the higher resolution RAW images show a three legged lander and that they have been altered.

Here's the thing Jarrah, because I know you'll be reading this: You have proved nothing, and the OHRC images show 4 legged descent stages. I was one of the first people outside ISRO to download and process those RAW images. They show Apollo 11 and 12 hardware exactly as they should be. You have no evidence that they have been in any way altered. Not one bit.

Attached is Apollo 11's descent stage, with each of its 4 legs identified, as well as the shadow from the leg that you don't seem able to see.

I'm not a liar Jarrah, I just think your ill-though out badly evidenced claims are bullshit. I also don't need your permission to quote you however I see fit .

I mean the shadow that looks like an Apollo LM descent stage might have something to say about the shape of the object casting said shadow.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by bknight on March 30, 2025, 05:49:53 PM »
BZ?
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by Obviousman on March 30, 2025, 05:15:23 PM »
I'm not a liar Jarrah, I just think your ill-though out badly evidenced claims are bullshit. I also don't need your permission to quote you however I see fit .

BZ!
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by onebigmonkey on March 30, 2025, 11:45:34 AM »
Oh dear, Jarrah isn't happy about the above posts.

Apparently I  know that I'm lying when I document his claims about the 3 legged lander. I have stated that his three legged claims were based on the low resolution images. That is true, that's what I said. He points out that he did a follow up article that "proves" that even the higher resolution RAW images show a three legged lander and that they have been altered.

Here's the thing Jarrah, because I know you'll be reading this: You have proved nothing, and the OHRC images show 4 legged descent stages. I was one of the first people outside ISRO to download and process those RAW images. They show Apollo 11 and 12 hardware exactly as they should be. You have no evidence that they have been in any way altered. Not one bit.

Attached is Apollo 11's descent stage, with each of its 4 legs identified, as well as the shadow from the leg that you don't seem able to see.

I'm not a liar Jarrah, I just think your ill-though out badly evidenced claims are bullshit. I also don't need your permission to quote you however I see fit .
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by onebigmonkey on March 27, 2025, 05:01:26 PM »
They don't update the OHRC as often, and there are 212 pages of images from it compared with 20000+ pages from TMC. That said, there are 3 TMC cameras and also some DEM/orthphoto pairs, so there is more to go at.

As best I can tell, the OHRC views of Apollo 11 & 12 were aimed at calibrating the cameras and so on, which are designed to work in lower light conditions at the poles, so they aren't routinely getting Apollo sites.

Jarrah's 3 legged claim is entirely based on the low resolution screen grabs used in webinars prior to the full image release. He claims NASA shenanigans, but the file naming convention shows they came down through Bangalore and India's own DSN..

The most stupid claim is Rasa's, who claims that NASA bullied ISRO into photoshopping a 'proper' LM into the images after they accidentally used images showing a three legged probe there.

He gets really annoyed if you point out to him that high resolution views were shown in a web presentation 3 months before the only one he knew about, and he'll delete comments telling him that because he's a dishonest moron.
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