why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?

[gillianren]

And anyway, I wasn't on the cluesforum because I would never waste my time there.  Leaving aside the misrepresentation of why Alex was banned, I happen to prefer fora that are on the side of the evidence.  I have other criteria as well, but we can start with that.

[Jason Thompson]

I got banned for saying the ISS was real.

You got banned for being amazingly rude and obnoxious.

Where were you people then?

Watching and enjoying the fact that you couldn't even get a bunch of conspiracy theorists to agree with you.
 

THIS IS MY FINAL TRANSMISSION.

Again?

[Noldi400]

as long as they were within maybe 100 miles of the planned landing site and could tell their orientation (such as the sun being in the east), they could make a suitable orbit to begin rendezvous.

Right, but it's even simpler than that.

Consider that the Apollo 11 LM and CSM were in a nearly equatorial orbit together before the landing, the surface stay was very brief, and the moon rotates very slowly. This meant the LM's landing site had to be very nearly in the CSM's orbital plane. So no matter where you actually land within this plane, you can get back to the CSM by simply continuing in the same direction you were going when you landed.

Nearly all of the error and uncertainty in the Apollo 11 landing site location was downrange along the track, and it was compensated for during rendezvous by simply adjusting the timing of the various burns, including liftoff. The information from the rendezvous radar that accurately measured the range and range-rate between the CSM and LM. The position of the moon underneath simply didn't matter.

This is similar to the question I was asking earlier about a manual lift-off. If you could gain some altitude and some tangential velocity while "keeping the sun at your back", you should be able to achieve an orbit fairly close to the CSMs.  I just wasn't sure what the minimum functionality of the the automatic systems would have to be to allow that.

[Chew]

Buzz Armstrong said they "couldn't see stars on the moon."

Ah yes. My favorite mined quote. If you ever bothered reading non-hoax believer web sites you can read the rest of the quote.

  Therefore, you can't get a bearing from a star for navigation. Therefore, you are all stuck on the moon.  The optics were just a telescope.  If you can't see a star with your eyes, you can't see it with a telescope.

Can you see stars during the day on Earth? Why or why not?

Can you see stars at night on Earth? Why or why not?

[Zakalwe]

If you can't see a star with your eyes, you can't see it with a telescope.  Nobody went anywhere.  End of story.  Sorry.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/aot.htm

If you can't see a star with your eyes, you can't see it with a telescope. 

That is completely, utterly, demonstrably false.

Clearly you have never looked through a telescope.

Yes I have.  Next?

Next time, take the lens cap off. And remember to look into the little end.

[smartcooky]

Buzz Armstrong said they "couldn't see stars on the moon."  Therefore, you can't get a bearing from a star for navigation.  Therefore, you are all stuck on the moon.  The optics were just a telescope.  If you can't see a star with your eyes, you can't see it with a telescope.  Nobody went anywhere.  End of story.  Sorry.

Even if you are right about the visibility of the stars (and you aren't) it wouldn't have mattered anyway. They didn't need to have bearings or navigation in order to order to lift off and rendezvous. All they needed was to know WHEN the CSM was passing overhead

And you claim to be an engineer? Anyone with a high school education could point out the schoolboy errors in your statements here.

[Zakalwe]

My work here is done.

THIS IS MY FINAL TRANSMISSION.

I'm losing count here...is this your third or fourth flounce?

[smartcooky]

Can you see stars during the day on Earth? Why or why not?

Can you see stars at night on Earth? Why or why not?

Actually, you first statement illustrates just how wrong alexsanchez is, because while you cannot normally see stars during the day with the unaided eye, you can with a telescope....

http://sky.velp.info/daystars.php

NOTE:  I say normally because you can actually see Sirius in broad daylight with the unaided eye (I have done so myself) if you know exactly where to look.

[JayUtah]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[raven]

There has to be another word than troll. It's been bandied around so much it's starting to lose all meaning!

[frenat]

"NASA must have had a less massive version.

Also, I think NASA must have dropped some navigation aids on the lunar surface before they attempted any manned landings."

Alex, what do you think of people who just parrot anonymous third party speculation?

Buzz Armstrong said they "couldn't see stars on the moon."  Therefore, you can't get a bearing from a star for navigation.  Therefore, you are all stuck on the moon.  The optics were just a telescope.  If you can't see a star with your eyes, you can't see it with a telescope.  Nobody went anywhere.  End of story.  Sorry.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/aot.htm

such a hilarious concept that I nominated it for a Stundie.

And "Buzz Armstrong" again?  Really? 

[Not Myself]

NOTE:  I say normally because you can actually see Sirius in broad daylight with the unaided eye (I have done so myself) if you know exactly where to look.

I've noticed this with Mercury.  When the sun is not quite down, and it's still relatively bright, Mercury is obvious, if I look straight at it.  If I don't quite know where to look, it's bloody well impossible

[Not Myself]

such a hilarious concept that I nominated it for a Stundie.

One does rather wonder what telescopes are for then.

[frenat]

If you can't see a star with your eyes, you can't see it with a telescope. 

That is completely, utterly, demonstrably false.

Clearly you have never looked through a telescope.

Yes I have.  Next question.

Then you are deliberately lying.

Next troll.

Calling me a troll hurts my feelings.  But you're stuck on the moon without navigation.  I feel sorry for you.  I really do.  I wish there was some way I could help, but it's a navigation problem.

Only in your twisted mind.   Read the first line of the signature.

[frenat]

I feel sorry for you.  I really do.  I wish there was some way I could help, but it's a navigation problem. 

You could help by not returning to this board after you get banned.

My work here is done.

Your work was to be an obvious (from the outset, you really think nobody here didn't know you were a troll?) sock puppet of a mentally imbalanced troll and to make a fool of yourself by proving you have no idea what you're talking about?