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Clavius: missing photos
JayUtah:
As far as I can tell all the images should be working now. If you run across any pages with missing Clavius-hosted images, post the link in this thread.
As far as what happened, I'm one of the oldest customers of this particular hosting company. As such, my account has gone through numerous upgrades in technology, and avoided some by grandfather policies. So clavius.org ended up being a corner case of all the corner cases for their migration to a new authentication, control panel, and hardware infrastructure. I graciously let the programmers use it as a guinea pig to work out the bugs, the final step of which (last week) being that we inadvertently zorched all the images off their space and I had to restore them all from an offsite backup. Just goes to show that software is non-trivial even for something as straightforward as hosting.
LunarOrbit:
I was just wondering this morning about how good the internet will be at preserving information from our time period for future generations, when compared to books and printed photographs. I'm not super confident. Digital information should be easy to convert from old formats to new ones, but in reality it isn't.
Both of our websites are examples of how server technology has changed and the older information on them hasn't been properly protected from those changes, at least not without some effort on our part. And on top of that, the preservation of the information our websites depends on someone continuing to pay the bill after we're gone.
Our websites are almost 20 years old now (yikes!). I'm not sure they will be around in another 20. Paper deteriorates over time, but it definitely has it's advantages.
bknight:
--- Quote from: LunarOrbit on March 18, 2018, 01:04:18 PM ---I was just wondering this morning about how good the internet will be at preserving information from our time period for future generations, when compared to books and printed photographs. I'm not super confident. Digital information should be easy to convert from old formats to new ones, but in reality it isn't.
Both of our websites are examples of how server technology has changed and the older information on them hasn't been properly protected from those changes, at least not without some effort on our part. And on top of that, the preservation of the information our websites depends on someone continuing to pay the bill after we're gone.
Our websites are almost 20 years old now (yikes!). I'm not sure they will be around in another 20. Paper deteriorates over time, but it definitely has it's advantages.
--- End quote ---
If it can be manipulated it will be, remember Murphy? well he was an optimist. :)
Time sure does pass fast when you're having fun.
gillianren:
It's why the Library of Congress hasn't digitized its film collection.
JayUtah:
To be sure, my hosting company keeps offsite backups of its own in a literal bunker. But I agree these forms are all largely ephemeral when compared to some of the originals. Old film is a poor archival medium because it is subject to chemical decay (acetate produces acetic acid, I'm told). Celluloid is subject to a similar decay. The camera originals from Apollo are undergoing dye shifts, prompting them to be digitized at high resolution if only to have a record of them as they are before future decay occurs. Ironically I received an initial copy of Roll 39, digitized from camera originals in lossless format at a zillion DPI. Damned now if I can find the hard disk they were stored on.
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