Apollo Discussions > The Hoax Theory
Hoax? - Sand Falls too Fast.
BertieSlack:
--- Quote from: najak on November 22, 2024, 10:27:56 PM ---How do you explain this sand falling so quickly
--- End quote ---
Are you a flat earther? Flerfers can't think in three dimensions either.
BTW - if the astronaut was on a wire, how come he take exactly the same time to go up as he does to come down?
Mag40:
I knew these would come in handy. Here is an animated gif of the famous jump salute.
Obviously there is a nice little parabolic arc of dust between John Young's boots. He goes up and so does the parabolic arc. Same time, same height. If he's on wires, so is the dust.
This one is a brilliant debunk of this dopey claim. The footage where Gene Cernan does his hippity-hoppity routine closes this case in one tiny segment.
najak:
--- Quote from: BertieSlack on November 23, 2024, 12:17:34 PM ---If the astronaut was on a wire, how come he take exactly the same time to go up as he does to come down?
--- End quote ---
Again, it seems I'm dealing with people here who do not understand basic simple high school physics.
If the astronaut and fake-suit weigh 200 lbs combined, and the wire is applying a constant 100 lbs upward force... then his jump trajectory will still follow a near-perfect parabola, with the launch speed being the same as the landing speed. Do I really need to make a physics-proof for you, for you to understand this? This is basic high school physics concept. Please learn this math/physics, before commenting on physics topics.
@Allen F - you promised me "smart scientific minds" here. Please summon them, ASAP.
I suspect the smartest minds are staying out of this, because it's a losing battle for them. Apollo is "breaking physics" here, which is impossible.
BertieSlack:
--- Quote from: najak on November 23, 2024, 02:49:03 PM ---If the astronaut and fake-suit weigh 200 lbs combined, and the wire is applying a constant 100 lbs upward force...
--- End quote ---
Think about what you just wrote, and then deal with what Mag40 just showed you.
najak:
--- Quote from: Mag40 on November 23, 2024, 02:10:01 PM ---This one is a brilliant debunk of this dopey claim. The footage where Gene Cernan does his hippity-hoppity routine closes this case in one tiny segment....
--- End quote ---
Thanks for the attempt at debunking. This gave me some homework to do. I consider your "hippity hoppity" rebuttal as a failure.
Today I obtained the NASA source video for this clip, as well as the Navy salute, and captured all frames at native resolution, without modification.
1. Navy Salute - appears to be damning for the PNA's.
2. The Hippity Hoppity attempted rebuttal has a major flaw.
I have placed all of my work on OneDrive, summarized in a google doc, with links to folders of the frame captures, as well as a KRITA project that overlays all frames as layers, and an MP4 for each that shows the sequence. I used VLC to export NASA's mpg frames to images.
Check it out and let me know what you think:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aos6_EqxlNfpLUGoSSemppmw_lUjl0hiby99szCKYi4/edit?usp=sharing
Spoiler - for the Hippity Hoppity attempted rebuttal, I pasted my conclusions here for your convenience:
#1 - This dot stays nearly stationary and the same size for 10 frames! (1/3rd second)
If it was incoming sand, it would be moving along the ground.
#2 - There is no sign of any dust coming in from above. It’s fully invisible, then this dot just magically appears, and stays nearly stationary for 10 frames, and PNA’s call it dust.
#3 - Let’s imagine that this is dust (magical). As he’s hopping along, each time he has to kick his feet forward as part of the hopping motion. This kicking motion would cause some dust to have an added upward boost. But since this dust is also INVISIBLE until it hits the ground many frames later – we are not able to tell by what trajectory it arrived at its stationary destination.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version