Author Topic: The Trump Presidency  (Read 751827 times)

Offline Zakalwe

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2100 on: February 03, 2025, 09:02:14 AM »
Never going to happen.

To pass Congress, a change to the Constitution requires a 2/3 majority of both the House and the Senate. The 535 seats in Congress currently stand at  273 (R) v 262 (D)... Republicans would need at least 321 sets to pass the proposal and send it to the State Letgislatures for ratification.

To ratify a Constitution change it requires a minimum of 75% of the states to agree. There are 49 Bicameral State Legislatures and one unicameral (Nebraska), so 50 Upper Houses and 49 Lower Houses, a total of 99 chambers. Republicans would need to control 75 of those chambers, but they only control 57.

Even if, somehow, it were to pass Congress though some Senate and House rules changes, it would never pass the ratification stage. No Democrat chamber is going to vote The Fat Orange Turd a third term.

You are assuming that the modern GOP gives a rancid rat's arse about the Constitution and the rules. Trumps owns the SCOTUS. His pet attack-dog, Musk, has shut-down USAID. They are trampling across the laws of the land and the mores of normal behaviour.

Lets be honest though. The chances of Trumpelthinskin actually surviving his second term are low. His chances or surviving that term without further major cognitive decline are close to zero. A third term is an irrelevance and is only a blatant attempt to curry favour by Andy Ogles. The GOP are going to rework the system to ensure that shaking their grasp on power will be very, very hard. Vance is ready to step in once Trump has served his usefulness and they wheel him off to dribble in a nursing home somewhere.

I personally think that we are watching the start of the collapse of the United States. If Musk stops Federal aid payments to citizens then a civil war won't be long behind. There's enough people out there that think that Luigi Mangione is actually a hero....
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2101 on: February 03, 2025, 05:40:32 PM »
Well, now we got a fun little trade war going on with you guys, eh?
That'll aboot bring down the price of eggs, fer sure, eh?
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2102 on: February 05, 2025, 03:59:05 PM »
The GOP are going to rework the system to ensure that shaking their grasp on power will be very, very hard. Vance is ready to step in once Trump has served his usefulness and they wheel him off to dribble in a nursing home somewhere.

I've held the belief for a while that Trump has just been a vehicle for the GOP.

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I personally think that we are watching the start of the collapse of the United States. If Musk stops Federal aid payments to citizens then a civil war won't be long behind. There's enough people out there that think that Luigi Mangione is actually a hero....

Europe is no bed of roses. It is going to rip itself apart in the next 10 years. I do not think the EU project will survive the rise of the right. Populism is on the rise everywhere, and Europe has a knack for showing the world full-throttle fascism with extra shiny bits.
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Offline Zakalwe

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2103 on: February 06, 2025, 09:40:00 AM »

Europe is no bed of roses. It is going to rip itself apart in the next 10 years. I do not think the EU project will survive the rise of the right. Populism is on the rise everywhere, and Europe has a knack for showing the world full-throttle fascism with extra shiny bits.


The EU is composed of individual countries, each with their own head of State. No-one Prime Minister has the control that the POTUS has.
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Offline Luke Pemberton

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #2104 on: February 06, 2025, 04:50:51 PM »
The EU is composed of individual countries, each with their own head of State. No-one Prime Minister has the control that the POTUS has.

I wasn't really comparing the EU and the US directly in terms of the power of POTUS, more that the EU is providing a focal point for dissent and populism. The political landscape is changing across Europe and that is going to be terrible for folk trying to get by on a day to day basis. The breaking up of the EU is what Putin wants. These are very worrying times globally.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein.

I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people – Sir Isaac Newton.

A polar orbit would also bypass the SAA - Tim Finch