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Apollo Discussions => The Hoax Theory => Topic started by: dwight on November 11, 2012, 05:15:26 PM
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Hi all. Long time member here and figured I want to be part of the thread peppering as well. Could anyone explain why the Apollo TV signal looks so bad on the first alleged moonwalk. Are there any good books or documentaries on the subject?
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I dunno, but I heard there was a book written by some Australian bloke that was supposed to be quite good...
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Jarrah White?
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Are there any good books or documentaries on the subject?
Yes, loads.
Try Amazon or your local library.
HTH
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It wasn't so much the signal was so poor, but that the camera used on Apollo 11 black and white and the format conversion method, pointing a television camera at a monitor, degraded the quality.
Here is an excellent PDF (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloTV-Acrobat5.pdf) that gives some detail on the technology used and the progression on each mission
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Think some might have missed the irony in this thread. Check the author's name on this:
http://www.amazon.com/Live-Apogee-Books-Space-Series/dp/1926592166 (http://www.amazon.com/Live-Apogee-Books-Space-Series/dp/1926592166)
There is a connection between him and the OP. See if you can spot it... ;)
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Hi all. Long time member here and figured I want to be part of the thread peppering as well. Could anyone explain why the Apollo TV signal looks so bad on the first alleged moonwalk. Are there any good books or documentaries on the subject?
I have one around her somewhere. I'll let you know.
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I still try to imagine what german sounds like when spoken with an australian accent.
"G'Tag, Kumpel!"
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Hi all. Long time member here and figured I want to be part of the thread peppering as well. Could anyone explain why the Apollo TV signal looks so bad on the first alleged moonwalk. Are there any good books or documentaries on the subject?
I was just about to answer this when I noticed who wrote it.
Fooey.
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Well, at least I'm not a sock puppet...and my Aussie accent when speaking german has resulted in a "Denglisch" lexikon at work - the brunt of many a joke over the 10 years I have been here!!
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Do they notice that much of a difference between German with an Australian accent and German with an American accent?
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I tend to speak with very little accent. So much so that I am often mistaken for being dutch or belgian.
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Hi all. Long time member here and figured I want to be part of the thread peppering as well. Could anyone explain why the Apollo TV signal looks so bad on the first alleged moonwalk. Are there any good books or documentaries on the subject?
Some of the guys that made the tv wrote they thought the pictures should have turned out much better.
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No, really? you should have written a book about it. Too bad I beat you to it.
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No, really? you should have written a book about it. Too bad I beat you to it.
Have the book, doesn't change my point.
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But you didn't write it now did you? Any thoughts on page 27 and its revelations?
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Jarrah White?
Jarrah White seems to have fallen out of favor. LEast seems to me.
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er this was a joke thread, which you realized from the outset right?
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It wasn't so much the signal was so poor, but that the camera used on Apollo 11 black and white and the format conversion method, pointing a television camera at a monitor, degraded the quality.
Here is an excellent PDF (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/ApolloTV-Acrobat5.pdf) that gives some detail on the technology used and the progression on each mission
Signal was poor.
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Part of the joy of having books is to be able to comprehend what is written in them. The one you allegedly have points out very clearly what happened to the signal, or did you happen to miss that entire chapter?
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What we'd have like to have seen is some more ambitious imaging.
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Like 16mm color film? Also see post above yours again.
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Why did it take so long to move to color?
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You tell me, I thought you have the book. Im sorry I didnt add a section that includes instructions on how to read it though.
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How about 70mm Ektachrome using what many consider the finest cameras and lenses ever manufactured (with all due respect to Leica fans)?
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What about the lasers, why not film them with the tv.
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shhh sus_pilot. Dont confuse him.
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What about the lasers, why not film them with the tv.
see post 87
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Some of the tv images are really terrific, there is an upside.
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Some of the tv images are really terrific, there is an upside.
Who in their right mind watches SD in this day and age?
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I wonder why people always use the term "ghostly" to describe the Apollo 11 tv images.
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see post 87
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Wouldn't it have been cool if Hasselblad made tvs too?
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see post 87
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Somebody said if they ramped up the gain the pic would have been better, or give the camera to Aldrin to set up. LOL.
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see post 87
Page 87?
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on a real mission tbs would be essential in case of difficulties and for documentation.
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dont you mean TBC?
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dont you mean TBC?
TBS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn-based_strategy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn-based_strategy)
to prevent boredom on longer missions.
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And if any of you can't see the correlation between that and the TV signal, it can be only attributed to your stupid, stupid minds.
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"That's all I'm takin' from you!"
Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhvDMhrws1o)
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No, really? you should have written a book about it. Too bad I beat you to it.
Have the book, doesn't change my point.
What point?
Every day in studio, I make recordings that could have been better.
Every post you write could have been better.
I fail to see why you consider this worth saying.
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I had an old crappy TV back in my student days which had a coathanger for an aerial, on bad days its reception made the Apollo 11 TV look like IMAX by comparison....
I think it was a conspiracy.
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No, really? you should have written a book about it. Too bad I beat you to it.
Have the book, doesn't change my point.
What point?
Every day in studio, I make recordings that could have been better.
Every post you write could have been better.
I fail to see why you consider this worth saying.
As the late, great Harry Nilsson stated in his awesome LP, The Point!, "A point in every direction is the same as no point at all!"
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Part of the joy of having books is to be able to comprehend what is written in them. The one you allegedly have points out very clearly what happened to the signal, or did you happen to miss that entire chapter?
Allegedly is quite right. Patrick has routinely lied about owning, and having read, books related to Apollo, when it is painfully obvious that he is simply grabbing bits that Google Books will display for him.
Unlike the prolific-but-inept liar Patrick, I actually own a copy of the book. I am looking at it right now.
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So sts60, what do you think about the major revelation about Mercury on page 29?
In Hoaxland I was whistleblowing on the H-U-G-E cover-up.
In reality, when I read the review where that was mentioned, my heart sank to my feet and I thought, "How the beans did I mess that up??"
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I'll take a look tomorrow (it's at the office). FWIW, I'll mention that I did have the pleasure of working with Olin Graham in the '90s; I recall you had some discussions with him in preparing your book.
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Not Olin, unfortunately. I did speak extensively with Stan Lebar, Sam Russel, John Lowrance, Max Engert and the tracking station guys. With the passing of many of these pioneers I am glad I got to hear their recollections and write about them when I did. The soon-to-be-released follow-up completes the story.
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So sts60, what do you think about the major revelation about Mercury on page 29?
Heh, I think it's funny that the jet-jockeys, famous for their razor-keen focus on the mission, would realize the value of TV for public attention before the NASA hierarchy would.
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So sts60, what do you think about the major revelation about Mercury on page 29?
Heh, I think it's funny that the jet-jockeys, famous for their razor-keen focus on the mission, would realize the value of TV for public attention before the NASA hierarchy would.
I haven't read the book, but you have to remember too that TV was still a relatively new invention. JFK was one of the first to make use of the power of the Tube - if you read the transcript, Nixon handed him his head in their televised debate, but viewers thought the made-up, carefully groomed Kennedy won big over the rumpled, five-o'clock-shadowed Nixon. I'm surprised JFK wasn't pushing hard for on-board TV cameras right from the start.