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Title: LM1
Post by: johnbutcher on December 15, 2014, 03:52:01 PM
LM1 was tested in LEO on Apollo5.
So does that mean it re-entered? If so? Where did it come down?
And how much of it might survive and is recoverable?

Sloop
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: ka9q on December 15, 2014, 04:02:19 PM
Yes, it burned up some time after the mission. It had staged, so the ascent and descent stages burned up separately.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: ka9q on December 15, 2014, 04:09:44 PM
According to the NASA Satellite Situation Report, Apollo 5 was launched on January 22, 1968 as 1968-007, i.e., the 7th launch of the year 1968. After separation, the ascent stage was given the designation 1968-007A. It re-entered on January 23, 1968. The descent stage was designated 1968-007B. It re-entered on February 12, 1968.

The S-IVB stage that launched them was 1968-007C. It re-entered on January 23, 1968.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: JayUtah on December 15, 2014, 04:22:54 PM
Based on the breakup of Skylab, the only components I would expect to survive re-entry in even remotely recoverable condition are the engine thrust chambers.  Had the vehicle used cryogenic propellants then some of that tankage would be a candidate for recovery but only the helium tanks on that spacecraft were cryogenic.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: johnbutcher on December 15, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
ka9q and jayutah.
thank you for this.
i do enjoy the details of apollo, such a major event in my life.

Sloop
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: ka9q on December 15, 2014, 05:48:30 PM
You're welcome.

Me too. I was 12 when Apollo 11 landed, and the Apollo program was one of the things that inspired me to become an electrical engineer. I also know a few people who were involved. They're some of the reasons I get so annoyed when ignorant people claim it never happened.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: Bob B. on December 15, 2014, 10:52:08 PM
We're about the same age, ka9q.  I was 11.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: Philthy on December 15, 2014, 11:47:08 PM
I was a just over a month shy of 16. Ah the good old days!

Phil
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: smartcooky on December 16, 2014, 03:23:46 AM
13 years 10 months
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: BazBear on December 16, 2014, 09:38:28 AM
4 years 6 months, and one of my earliest solid memories. I couldn't believe Neil and Buzz were unarmed; there obviously had to be space monsters to worry about! ;D
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: RAF on December 16, 2014, 11:43:38 AM
14 years, almost 9 months.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: Allan F on December 16, 2014, 12:05:12 PM
11 months - didn't know anything about it until 4-5 years later.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: raven on December 16, 2014, 02:34:52 PM
T-minus 17 years and 5 months.  :P
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: johnbutcher on December 16, 2014, 05:37:40 PM
I was 10. Only time until I was 14, that I was allowed up to watch TV.
At 14 my parents got me binoculars. It was another 10 years before I realised that they must have known about my interests.

sloop
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: Luckmeister on December 16, 2014, 07:22:08 PM
I was 31. I was so totally into it that I can't remember where I was or who I was with.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: gwiz on December 17, 2014, 09:36:03 AM
Yes, it burned up some time after the mission. It had staged, so the ascent and descent stages burned up separately.
The Ascent Stage burned up about ten minutes after its last manoeuvre, which lowered the orbit to intersect the atmosphere.

...and I was 24 and already an aerospace engineer at the time of Apollo 11.
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: raven on December 18, 2014, 03:18:54 AM
Wow! :o
What were you working on?
Title: Re: LM1
Post by: gwiz on December 18, 2014, 05:51:04 AM
Wow! :o
What were you working on?
I was in Hawker-Siddeley's Advanced Projects Group, several projects on the go at the time including reusable space vehicle studies.  That led to me being part of the HS team that in the following year went out to St Louis for McDonnell-Douglas' Space Shuttle Phase B effort.  Unfortunately, MDAC lost out to NA Rockwell and then the US decided they didn't need foreign help anyway.