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Offline JayUtah

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #480 on: January 30, 2013, 03:16:51 PM »
I suspect that he has found the anti-Apollo pages of a certain CT author..

Yes, he's been cribbing from Aulis the whole time.  Not as if he's keeping that a secret.  I just wonder where the Gish Gallop is heading.
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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #481 on: January 30, 2013, 03:25:10 PM »
It seems the terms of service only apply to dissidents.

I would hope that anyone who posts graphic pictures of execution victims to the boards would be banned no matter what their stance on Apollo.

Did this Jules Verne steampunk looking thing actually land on the moon?
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/uploads/LROCiotw/Lunokhod1.jpg

Come up with something better; you are becoming boring.
So boring this thread has stretched to 33 pages.

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #482 on: January 30, 2013, 03:33:31 PM »
I suspect that he has found the anti-Apollo pages of a certain CT author..

Yes, he's been cribbing from Aulis the whole time.  Not as if he's keeping that a secret.  I just wonder where the Gish Gallop is heading.
I debunked one of the Aulis claims myself using a graphic editor.

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #483 on: January 30, 2013, 03:39:57 PM »
So boring this thread has stretched to 33 pages.

You're boring and predictable.  The topic is interesting.  We always like talking about Apollo.

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #484 on: January 30, 2013, 03:43:38 PM »
I suspect that he has found the anti-Apollo pages of a certain CT author..

Yes, he's been cribbing from Aulis the whole time.  Not as if he's keeping that a secret.  I just wonder where the Gish Gallop is heading.
I debunked one of the Aulis claims myself using a graphic editor.

Suuuuuuuuure you did.
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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #485 on: January 30, 2013, 03:44:31 PM »
So boring this thread has stretched to 33 pages.

You're boring and predictable.  The topic is interesting.  We always like talking about Apollo.

Ha!  Alex, you haven't read the whole thread, have you?  It's not all about you ;)
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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #486 on: January 30, 2013, 03:44:35 PM »
Did this Jules Verne steampunk looking thing actually land on the moon?
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/uploads/LROCiotw/Lunokhod1.jpg

Why should the aesthetics of the vehicle affect its performance. (BTW, I think this looks seriously cool.)

If you think it couldn't land on the Moon, what specific parts of the design appear not to be suitable?

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #487 on: January 30, 2013, 03:46:05 PM »
I debunked one of the Aulis claims myself using a graphic editor.

Before or after I did it for you? What analysis did you perform and what results did you get?

Now that you have done such excellent work in exposing just how dishonest and baseless the Aulis version of events is, why carry on thinking that they are worth using as a resource?

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #488 on: January 30, 2013, 03:48:42 PM »
Alex, this wire claim was debunked on the old board about eight years ago. Next?
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=theories&action=display&thread=608&page=1
I see the guy who argued for it was banned.

For violating the Terms of Service.
It seems the terms of service only apply to dissidents.

Did this Jules Verne steampunk looking thing actually land on the moon?
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/uploads/LROCiotw/Lunokhod1.jpg

So what's your idea of what a lunar rover should look like, and why?
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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #489 on: January 30, 2013, 03:55:34 PM »
Let's see, the wide lid covered in solar cells providing ample power and closing at night to help contain the heat generated by a nuclear source to keep the electronics from being affected. Several sets of wheels for stability with an open design so they would not collect dust that could slow them down. Video camera's facing forward for navigation.
I'm just a layman, but it seems like a pretty good design for the moon.
Please, Alex, tell us all just why it wouldn't have worked.

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #490 on: January 30, 2013, 03:57:18 PM »
I debunked one of the Aulis claims myself using a graphic editor.

No.  You presented the Aulis photographs and advocated them as hoax evidence.  You did so vigorously, showing (in the process) an astounding ignorance of the basics of photographic interpretation.

We debunked them.  You persisted against that.  We continued to debunk them.

Then you announced you had downloaded the GIMP and would look at the photos yourself.  Then, not surprisingly, much later, you announced you had come to the conclusion they were not evidence of fraud.  That is, you finally agreed with your critics, but in a way that wouldn't make it seem like you had been corrected and refuted.  You had to wait until it was "your" determination, not simply your belated concession.
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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #491 on: January 30, 2013, 04:00:30 PM »
Did this Jules Verne steampunk looking thing actually land on the moon?
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/uploads/LROCiotw/Lunokhod1.jpg

Well if it didn't.....there goes the standard hoax defence ;D

To paraphrase.....if the Russians could land their laser reflectors on the Moon.....the Apollo ones could also be unmanned. Only they appear at the exact spot the Lunar Modules landed......photographed by the LROC of course.

Any response to your foot shooting post? Care to back peddle and say...."of course they could"?

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #492 on: January 30, 2013, 04:07:26 PM »
Did this Jules Verne steampunk looking thing actually land on the moon?
http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/uploads/LROCiotw/Lunokhod1.jpg

Why should the aesthetics of the vehicle affect its performance. (BTW, I think this looks seriously cool.)

If you think it couldn't land on the Moon, what specific parts of the design appear not to be suitable?
I didn't say it couldn't land on the moon.  I just think the Soviet Union had a predilection for lying.  I think the robot looks very cool.  I might build one some day.  It reminds me of Crab Fu.
http://www.crabfu.com/steamtoys/

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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #493 on: January 30, 2013, 04:10:07 PM »
While you're here, how about answering my questions?

What was the level of precision needed for the LM's position in order to effect a successful liftoff and docking?

What are your qualifications?

Do you know where Stanley Kubrick lived and worked at the time you say he was faking Apollo footage?
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Re: why was the usa the only one to go to the moon?
« Reply #494 on: January 30, 2013, 04:17:07 PM »
I just think the Soviet Union had a predilection for lying.

So what?  Unless you can prove they were lying, the other lies are irrelevant.  Seriously, why is this so hard to understand?
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