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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #151 on: June 19, 2012, 08:40:54 AM »
Case dismissed. As in deltaindiasierramikeindiasierrasierraechodelta.

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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #152 on: June 19, 2012, 08:42:35 AM »
Case dismissed. As in deltaindiasierramikeindiasierrasierraechodelta.

So you concede that we are right and you are wrong?  Great! Happy to help  :)

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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #153 on: June 19, 2012, 09:24:38 AM »
You can`t demand proof, as this is not court.
Case dismissed. As in deltaindiasierramikeindiasierrasierraechodelta.
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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #154 on: June 19, 2012, 09:29:01 AM »
Have you ever thought why I am so gullible?by mainstream, etc.  That is your job to do here, and that is your pattern.

It is the same as NIST. (`Have you found any explsives`? No. Did y Why I believe in chemtrails, moonhoax,  9/11 yet wouldn`t bother going into aliens, area51, sasquatch, and the usual stuff. WHy I would be at the same time interested in technology, science, yet be so gullible and believe complete bullcrap such as chemtrails?


Really, I have no idea why you are so gullible. Possibly genetics, possibly a deep-seated psychological need to believe that you are smarter than everyone else, without actually having to work for that achievement.

But gullible you are. Strangely, I'm sure that's one statement you will adamantly refuse to believe.

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« Reply #155 on: June 19, 2012, 03:17:32 PM »
You know, I'm not an expert on contrails.  Or Apollo.  Or 9/11.  However, I know enough on all three subjects to debunk ignorant tripe.  It doesn't actually take that much knowledge.
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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #156 on: June 19, 2012, 03:26:47 PM »
There is something going on here, I can`t figure it out yet. For example, i don`t comment on JFK, or other subjects that I haven`t done at least minimal research, but you are completely specialised in chemtrails. Whenever I have talked to people in university, they always replied, give  me a couple of days at least to go into the topic. But you are experts, simply because  you have your scientific...approach.

Contrails are easy to understand.  I even linked you a page on how to estimate whether or not you'll see contrails.  The math might take a bit of work (as well as knowing certain variables), but it's all there.  This is the age of the internet, after all.

Relatedly, I don't have to go back and do all the mathematical computations just to show that the Earth goes around the Sun.  It's vastly accepted science, and the information is out there with a simple google search; why would I have to say "I'll need a couple of days to look it up", especially online?  Google search, link, done.

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Have you ever thought why I am so gullible?

Well, some of us do wonder.  Some of us think we have this form of thinking figured out.  Personally, I think it's a mixture of ego, not wanting to think you're wrong, and demonization (wanting to feel that there's demons out there, such as the US Government, and you ascribe every power, motivation, and ability to them -- or some hidden conspiracy group, you still haven't gone into what you think the real powers are).

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Why I believe in chemtrails, moonhoax,  9/11 yet wouldn`t bother going into aliens, area51, sasquatch, and the usual stuff. WHy I would be at the same time interested in technology, science, yet be so gullible and believe complete bullcrap such as chemtrails?

You ran off instead of discussing the 9/11 subject, but that's your prerogative.  Also, you really don't seem interested in technology or science.  You seem to only look up JUST enough to spout off how X is impossible, without doing the research into what it's all about -- just look at contrails.

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You can keep peddaling that everything is nonsence, coincidence, not scientifically approrved by mainstream, etc.  That is your job to do here, and that is your pattern.

It's not a job.  I do this for fun.  Enjoyment.  I have no obligation to be here.

And no, the evidence is not convincing.

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It is the same as NIST. (`Have you found any explsives`? No. Did you  look? No. Why? We didn`t expect them to be there so we didn`t.) You will probably say the same, that you didn`t research chemtrails because they don`t exist. it is meaningless because you are in a postion of only arguing . If you had common sense, you would try to research evidence offered by both parties, or at least be suspicious about why this `chemtrails` issue is so widespread.

We understand how contrails operate.  I offered you the tools to find out yourself.

Why should I be so suspicious it's widespread?  I've seen millions of people ignorant on any number of issues, why not this as well?
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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #157 on: June 19, 2012, 03:27:36 PM »
Case dismissed. As in deltaindiasierramikeindiasierrasierraechodelta.

Oh well.  You can lead a horse to water...
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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #158 on: June 19, 2012, 06:06:54 PM »
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« Reply #159 on: June 19, 2012, 08:10:27 PM »
I really don't see all the fuss over what are obviously the continuous flatulence trails of invisible pink unicorns chasing commercial airliners... as invisible pink unicorns are wont to do.
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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #160 on: June 19, 2012, 10:06:21 PM »
I'm amused at this:  http://www.alienscientist.com/forum/showthread.php?1653-Chemtraiils.-The-strong-evidence.

Even on a forum that's based around conspiracy theories, he's all disbelieving everyone around him.  :D
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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #161 on: June 19, 2012, 10:18:45 PM »
For anyone that believes in "Chemtrails" please explain how a contrail is made...and the difference between that and a contrail!
As well can you answer the following
Who is orchestrating the spraying us of chemicals?
Why are they doing this?
What proof do you offer that provides a conclusive finding of these acts!
How are the ones that plan and carry out this mass dosing of chemicals protecting themselves from adverse effects?....what are those effects?

When you "spot" chemtrails please explain the procedure you go through to cross check FAA scheduled flights and the conflicting or unregistered flight patterns are identified by you how?
WHat is the difference between "chemtrails" and cloud seeding programs?


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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #162 on: June 19, 2012, 10:19:18 PM »
I really don't see all the fuss over what are obviously the continuous flatulence trails of invisible pink unicorns chasing commercial airliners... as invisible pink unicorns are wont to do.

 :o ;D ;D That made me spit pop all over my desk!
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« Reply #163 on: June 19, 2012, 11:41:35 PM »
:o ;D ;D That made me spit pop all over my desk!
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Offline ChrLz

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Re: Chemtrails. The reality.
« Reply #164 on: June 20, 2012, 05:10:24 AM »
At the risk of being a broken record, may I offer my usual suggestion / challenge to any 'chem'trail believer?

It is often (almost universally) claimed by 'chem'trail promoters that there are hundreds, nay thousands of these evil-doing planes laying trails at altitudes below that at which contrails would naturally form.  Every day, over their heads, criss cross trails, supposedly at levels below which contrails would form..

So, 'chemmies' - wouldn't it be in your interest to actually record an example of such a thing?  And given that it is very easy, why not  .. do it?

Here's how, and all you need is a camcorder or video-capable camera (why even some of the newer phones have sufficient video quality..).  Note that this will work best in the US, for reasons I am happy to go into later..

1. First up, wait for a good day, when the evil is afoot.

2. Now, get up from your computer (that might be the most difficult part)

3. Jump in your car (or better yet, walk and get some exercise! but take a radio with you) and head to your nearest newsagent (or anywhere that sells papers), preferable one near a signposted street junction.  Buy a daily paper.

4. Now, staying near your car (turn the radio on so we can hear the time being announced)...  Start videoing!!

Here's what you need to film:

5. - the front page of the paper, and then zoom in to show the date and time (make sure it focuses properly)

6. - your location.  Do this by zooming back, and showing exactly where you are standing relative to the street junction sign and show enough 'landmarks' to allow verification on Google Earth, so that we can work out which you are facing.

7. - the 'trails' being laid.  Again, start from fully zoomed back so we can see which way you are facing, and then zoom in (don't overdo it!) to show at least one aircraft laying the trails.

8. - the entire sky.  Just pan slowly around while zoomed right back, to show the sky and any existing clouds and/or trails.

That's it, folks!  From there, we can pretty much fully analyse the full situation that you have captured, and in particular, determine whether that particular aircraft *should* have been laying contrails (I'll go through that process later, as required...)  Just one thing though - please post the video ON THE DAY that you filmed it (on youtube or whatever) so the date will be verified..  Oh and try to keep the camera steady - a tripod would be good, but isn't essential...


Now, here's the funny thing - no chemtrail believer has elected to take this on.

Why is that - does it all sound too complicated?  If anyone has a problem with any of it, can you tell me what is difficult?  I'm happy to do an example myself to prove it ain't hard...

I'll tell you why.  Either they did try it, and discovered for themselves that the aircraft were in contrail-conducive conditions, or they didn't because they are interminally lazy, trolling, or simply know dam well what the result will be.

CONtrails.