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Off Topic => General Discussion => Topic started by: johnbutcher on January 18, 2016, 04:08:15 AM
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Got wagglers this christmas (family name for money in a card).
Looking at the Haynes manual for Apollo 11!
Is this worth me spending £23, to buy, or is there something better for this price?
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It's OK, but I much prefer this one (assuming you haven't already got it. If you have, then the Haynes won't really be worthwhile)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apollo-Springer-Praxis-Exploration-Revised/dp/B00CB5TKOY/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453108340&sr=1-3&keywords=how+apollo+flew+to+the+moon
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It's OK, but I much prefer this one (assuming you haven't already got it. If you have, then the Haynes won't really be worthwhile)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apollo-Springer-Praxis-Exploration-Revised/dp/B00CB5TKOY/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453108340&sr=1-3&keywords=how+apollo+flew+to+the+moon
I agree. A number of publications which are far better value but How Apollo Flew To The Moon tops the list.
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Rather surprisingly, I don't have any Apollo books!
I do have the Airfix LM and CSM models!
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You guys need to see these:
http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/18_on2015-oo-180956601/?no-ist
http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/billyleliveld/media/18_Billys_Apollo_seats_4.jpg.html
http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/billyleliveld/media/04_Billys_Apollo_interior_02.jpg.html
http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/pasa-paper-aeronautical-space-administration/16244-apollo-command-module-1-12-a.html
And these:
http://udonfactory.the-ninja.jp/paper/down/lmdown.html
http://www.geek.com/news/build-this-incredibly-detailed-apollo-13-lunar-module-from-21-sheets-of-a4-paper-1623002/
http://www.papermodelers.com/forum/510192-post1.html
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Now soliciting wagglers for my birthday and have added "How we flew to the moon" to my must buy list.
How? After 40 odd years! Do I not have any Apollo books?
Damn! Just remembered about Spacecraft DVD's (Is that right?".
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Her indoors in very good mood. Reminded her of the COCO Chanel I got her for Christmas.
Have just ordered Haynes, Gemini , How Apollo, and SaturnV workshop manual.
Gonnae be a good month as I'm on holiday now till the end of the month.
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If you fancy some older books, I often gawp at the pictures in my copy of 'Apollo over the moon a view from orbit' which can be had second hand at your online bookshop of choice very reasonably indeed :)
Likewise Mailer's "A fire on the moon" which I am currently enjoying.
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A fire on the moon! what's that?
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A fire on the moon! what's that?
Norman Mailer was hired by Life magazine to provide articles on the landing, and it's a compilation and expansion of that work.
It's part social commentary, part documentary, part philosophical treatise on what it all meant. He provides a lot of interesting background about what reporters had access to and how they were given information, and there is a wealth of technical detail in there about what went on during the mission. It's useful from a position of defending the history of it all in that it contains that detail as well as verbatim records of conversations with the crew.
His writing style is a little verbose and he really really could learn how to use paragraphs, but it's interesting and thought provoking. A heavyweight (and much more expensive) coffee table version was produced for one of the anniversaries that has lots of photos in it called 'Moonfire'.
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Haynes gemini manual just arrived!
3 more to come!
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Haynes manual;
P12,
"Rather than being , a tightly controlled, singular, organisation, NASA has, always, been a collection of field centres, each a fiefdom, that battles for a degree of independence even as headquarters in Washington DC seeks to assert it's authority!"
I've known this for years, but cannot, remember where I learned it.
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apollo 11 manual arrived yesterday and How Apollo Flew to the moon came today. Got a little bit of reading to do over the next couple weeks.
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Andrew Chaikains "A Man on the Moon" is very, very good. it's the book that the mini-series "From Earth to the Moon" was based on:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Moon-Voyages-Astronauts-Collection/dp/0141041838/ref=la_B001HPRC7Q_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453909393&sr=1-1
Murray and Cox's "Race to the Moon" is probably the definitive story. It's out of print, but well worth searching out.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apollo-Race-Moon-Charles-Murray/dp/067170625X
From there, you're probably looking at getting into the biographies of the people behind the program and specific parts of the technology. Kranz's "Failure is Not an Option" is a great read:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Failure-Not-Option-Thorndike-Bestsellers/dp/0425179877/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
but probably the best is Michael Collins "Carrying the Fire". Collins is probably the most eloquent of the astronauts in my opinion.
I didn't enjoy Aldrin's books that much...his ego kept getting in the way, though it did give a great insight into the demons that he fought all his life. Armstrongs story (http://www.amazon.co.uk/First-Man-Life-Neil-Armstrong/dp/1476727813/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453909496&sr=1-7) was a bit dry (not the story, more the way it was written), but still readable. I did like "Deke!" (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Deke-Donald-Slayton/dp/031285918X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453909067&sr=1-1&keywords=deke).
Tom Kelly's (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Moon-Lander-Developed-Smithsonian-Spaceflight-ebook/dp/B006Q2D5DK/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453909161&sr=1-1&keywords=tom+kelly+lunar+module) book is fascinating and is a "must read" in my opinion.
More specialist books about the technology that I would recommend are:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apollo-Guidance-Computer-Architecture-Operation/dp/1441908765/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453909342&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Apollo-Human-Machine-Spaceflight/dp/0262516101/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Saturn-F-1-Engine-Powering-Exploration/dp/0387096299/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1453909363&sr=1-5
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Virtual-Apollo-Pictorial-Engineering-Construction/dp/1896522947/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Virtual-LM-Pictorial-Engineering-Construction/dp/1894959140/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8
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NASA:- Saturn V, flight manual came today.
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Got all the books I ordered now. Excellent reading.
Off topic. Had the privilege of showing my grandson his first, real, astronomical sighting. ISS came over tonight, partial cloud cover (about 1/3). But got a good minutes worth of visual. Really chuffed to have shown him.
JohnB
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Got all the books I ordered now. Excellent reading.
Off topic. Had the privilege of showing my grandson his first, real, astronomical sighting. ISS came over tonight, partial cloud cover (about 1/3). But got a good minutes worth of visual. Really chuffed to have shown him.
JohnB
For moments like that it is good to post off topic, IMO