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Apollo Discussions => The Reality of Apollo => Topic started by: BazBear on March 20, 2013, 04:29:36 AM

Title: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: BazBear on March 20, 2013, 04:29:36 AM
I just tried accessing a few docs from NTRS that I'd found with a Google search, and I kept getting "403 Forbidden" error messages. I then tried the main ntrs.nasa.gov page and got this:
Quote
Until further notice,
the NTRS system will be unavailable for public access.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and anticipate
that this site will return to service in the near future.
I wonder what's up? <HB> Must be part of the conspiracy </HB> ;)
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: Obviousman on March 20, 2013, 04:50:10 AM
I imagine it is offline for maintenance / upgrade. I've got heaps from there already, so doesn't really worry me.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: raven on March 20, 2013, 06:11:25 AM
Unfortunately, the system was probably never designed for much traffic.
Here's hoping it comes back soon.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: Abaddon on March 20, 2013, 10:59:31 AM
Unfortunately, the system was probably never designed for much traffic.
Here's hoping it comes back soon.

NASA announcement
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/ (http://www.sti.nasa.gov/)
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: Chew on March 20, 2013, 11:12:33 AM
Probably cuz' of the NWO sequestration.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: BazBear on March 20, 2013, 05:46:04 PM
Unfortunately, the system was probably never designed for much traffic.
Here's hoping it comes back soon.

NASA announcement
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/ (http://www.sti.nasa.gov/)
Yeah, that's the exact same announcement from ntrs.nasa.gov that I C&Ped into the OP.

ETA-I originally missed the little "upgrade coming soon" note below the main announcement. Why didn't the fools just add that to the announcement that they had posted on both pages? :)
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: BazBear on March 20, 2013, 05:54:13 PM
Probably cuz' of the NWO sequestration.
Ah ha, that explains why that Boehner fella looks a little like a shape shifting reptilian overlord. You really need a pair of the x-ray glasses that they used to sell in the back of comic books to see this clearly, though.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: ka9q on March 21, 2013, 07:53:25 AM
If it really is due to the sequestration, then it looks like NASA is playing the 'ol Washington Monument game...

Fortunately, I have amassed quite a local collection of NTRS documents (especially Apollo). I'd be happy to share them if this goes on for a while.

Title: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: Sus_pilot on March 21, 2013, 02:11:16 PM
Here's a link that may explain what's going on.  I know many of you don't like FoxNews, but there are some other sources out there, including the Huffington post.

I was hoping CNN also had the story so I could put up two links.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/03/20/nasa-locks-out-foreigners-following-spy-allegations/
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: ka9q on March 21, 2013, 07:31:55 PM
Sigh. It sounds like this may go on for a while.

Why NASA would lock down a publicly available data base -- one they know is available to the Chinese and everyone else -- because one of their contractors carried out data that presumably wasn't publicly available is beyond me. It'll just increase the motivation to 'penetrate' NASA to get data, and that will give them access to both nonpublic and formerly public data at the same time.

I wonder if Bolden or anyone else has realized that NASA technical documents are also available on microfiche at a number of "technical repositories" around the country, including at the UCSD engineering library near me. Maybe they figure anything that isn't online doesn't count anymore.

I have well over 100 GB of stuff from the NTRS, most but not all on Apollo. If anyone would like a copy, contact me and we can make arrangements. Hint: I would love some help on indexing all this stuff...


Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: Obviousman on March 29, 2013, 06:04:57 AM
I think it is to do with ITAR. Great concept, bloody disastrous in execution.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: Noldi400 on March 29, 2013, 10:30:12 AM
Oh, man.  That's going to ramp up the hoaxer claims about "NASA military secrets".
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: Halcyon Dayz, FCD on March 30, 2013, 12:07:39 PM
Oh, man.  That's going to ramp up the hoaxer claims about "NASA military secrets".
Most of them aren't aware of the existence of the NTRS.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: cjameshuff on March 31, 2013, 08:53:36 AM
Most of them aren't aware of the existence of the NTRS.

Or they ignore it because they can't find anything in it to support their opinions. Now they have a whole new excuse for that.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: raven on March 31, 2013, 10:01:55 AM
Well, as unlikely as it may be, I hope it gets reinstated soon.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: ka9q on April 01, 2013, 07:51:23 AM
Yeah. I hadn't realized how many sites link to it. Many now-broken links from Wikipedia, for example.

I'm serious -- if this is going to persist indefinitely, I'm willing to contribute my non-insubstantial cache of NTRS documents to any reconstruction effort.
Title: Re: NASA NTRS unavailable for public access
Post by: dwight on May 10, 2013, 05:43:16 PM
The NTRS is back online, but has been seriously gutted with approximately 250,000 documents now missing. What a joke.