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Apollo Discussions => The Hoax Theory => Topic started by: Rob260259 on October 17, 2013, 09:55:41 AM

Title: Kapton film
Post by: Rob260259 on October 17, 2013, 09:55:41 AM
Anybody,
this is a question from a friend:

Anybody know if there was only one version of Kapton film used on the LM? I got lured in by a hoax-nut, VanSevenZ, who asked why they covered the LM with "tinfoil" then came back with teeth bared. He offered this photo

 www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/images/print/AS11/40/5919.jpg

as evidence that NASA lied about the Kapton blanket being 26-ply. Personally, it looks like the material that's pulled back is gold on one side, silver on the other (like it should be), exposing something else underneath. I think they used different thicknesses for different applications. Even if they used a "thick" 5 mil material, could you tell it was multi-layer from the photo he referenced?

With the NTS down, the best link I've found on Kapton was here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jurvetson/6861117148/

There's a diagram from a NASA Tech Note (possibly TN D-7564) and a link to a good source on Google Books.


Really not my cup of tea... :-(
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: JayUtah on October 17, 2013, 01:39:08 PM
The short answer is that no, Grumman did not use the same films at the same ply on all areas of the lunar module.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: Obviousman on October 18, 2013, 01:22:38 AM
See LMA790-3-LM 10 Apollo Operations Handbook - Lunar Module - Vol I - Subsystems Data dated 1 April 1971, page 1-14 para 1.2.2.6; all the details you want. That particular publication details LM10 and subsequent; for LM8 and LM9 see LMA790-3-LM 8 dated 15 June 1970.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: Rob260259 on October 18, 2013, 10:14:04 AM
Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: dwight on October 18, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
I'm just happy it was a contemporaneous reference. You never can be too sure these days what with MKUltra, Magic Bunyips, and the like.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: armillary on October 18, 2013, 02:31:20 PM
You forget the Ninja Drop Bears.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: dwight on October 18, 2013, 02:53:16 PM
I think we all forget the Ninja Drop Bears, and that's our main problem.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: Rob260259 on October 18, 2013, 03:39:18 PM
I'm just happy it was a contemporaneous reference. You never can be too sure these days what with MKUltra, Magic Bunyips, and the like.

Actually, the friend of my son which studies via internet looked at this hoax thingy and he concluded that much of the Apollo footage was sped up because everyone knows that NASA slowed down the video from the moon to make it look like it was on the moon because it was really filmed on a sound stage at Area51 by mister Kubrick under orders from the Grey Aliens and hidden by the Bavarian Illuminati and kept secret using the Orbital Mind Control Lasers used by the men in black and the CIA!
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: Allan F on October 18, 2013, 03:48:11 PM
Maybe you should look into the friends your son have.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: Rob260259 on October 18, 2013, 03:55:29 PM
Maybe you should look into the friends your son have.

 ;D
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: Echnaton on October 18, 2013, 04:28:32 PM
Maybe you should look into the friends your son have.

 ;D

They obviously have way too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: Rob260259 on October 18, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
Maybe you should look into the friends your son have.

 ;D

They obviously have way too much time on their hands.

Too much time, too much YouTube and way too much iPhone.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: Sus_pilot on October 18, 2013, 09:30:34 PM
Man, I am tired. I saw this and started wondering who Kapton was and what kind of hoax movie he made.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: BazBear on October 19, 2013, 12:03:00 AM
I'm just happy it was a contemporaneous reference. You never can be too sure these days what with MKUltra, Magic Bunyips, and the like.

Actually, the friend of my son which studies via internet looked at this hoax thingy and he concluded that much of the Apollo footage was sped up because everyone knows that NASA slowed down the video from the moon to make it look like it was on the moon because it was really filmed on a sound stage at Area51 by mister Kubrick under orders from the Grey Aliens and hidden by the Bavarian Illuminati and kept secret using the Orbital Mind Control Lasers used by the men in black and the CIA!
All funded by the Rothschilds and/or the Rockefellers. Supported by a mysterious Kenyan king with the initials BHO.
Title: Re: Kapton film
Post by: dwight on October 19, 2013, 11:40:55 AM
Actually, the Kapton Foil, is a plot device used in the ancient art of story telling. When a character starts taking the limelight, a "kapton foil" is used to throw their success in disarray.