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Title: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: beedarko on February 11, 2015, 10:18:13 PM
Buzz's preferred punching bag complains that his contribution to the NatGeo documentary Jay participated in, was left on the cutting room floor.

The most relevant portion of his manifesto, for those who'd like to avoid eye fatigue:

'As the apparent leading “expert” on the moon landing fraud, I was asked to participate in the above "television special" to discuss the moon landing hoax “theory”, although the point of the program was really to denounce my work. When my arguments and newly discovered video evidence were too well presented, they changed their mind to have me on their program.'



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Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: JayUtah on February 11, 2015, 11:29:58 PM
When he demanded an exorbitant "appearance fee" they changed their mind to have him on the program.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: JayUtah on February 11, 2015, 11:32:12 PM
'As the apparent leading “expert” on the moon landing fraud, I was asked to participate in the above "television special" to discuss the moon landing hoax “theory”, although the point of the program was really to denounce my work.

Actually it was aimed almost entirely at Bennett and Percy, with a bit of Ralph Rene.  I wasn't even asked about Sibrel.  He's making crap up.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: beedarko on February 11, 2015, 11:49:25 PM
  He's making crap up.

Seems incongruent with his history.

/sarcasm


Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: JayUtah on February 12, 2015, 12:03:52 AM
Seriously, the producers at Zig Zag Productions complained because so few conspiracy theorists agreed to appear.  They called me about two months before productions and read off a list of names they were shopping, and asked me if there were any more they should consider.  They said they really tried hard to get David Percy and/or Mary Bennett, but they explicitly declined.  Sibrel was on the list, but they said he asked for too much money so they dropped him.  The only people they could get were Rene and Kaysing.  From what these various producers told me, Sibrel won't lift a finger without at least a four-figure check.  And he demands license fees for the use of any of his material.  So the only reason Sibrel's material doesn't get included in various documentaries is because he wants more money than the producers are willing to pay.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: raven on February 12, 2015, 12:11:52 AM
Even that does not make me lose as much respect as I lost for this.
It shows he knows, he absolutely must know that he is making false claims that material from the very transmission he takes clips from discredits. I believe the same can  be said of David Percy with his related transparency claim, as it discredits that as well.
Seriously, what a bunch of low life scum ass artists. >:(
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: Luke Pemberton on February 12, 2015, 12:14:02 AM
From what these various producers told me, Sibrel won't lift a finger without at least a four-figure check.  And he demands license fees for the use of any of his material.  So the only reason Sibrel's material doesn't get included in various documentaries is because he wants more money than the producers are willing to pay.

I get it, even the truth to blow open the doors on the US government and their multibillion dollar swindle has a price on it. And there was me thinking Sibrel was a man of honour in search for liberty and justice for the American tax payer. Sheesh  ???
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: Luke Pemberton on February 12, 2015, 12:16:35 AM
Even that does not make me lose as much respect as I lost for this.

GreaterSapien produced a couple of great video blogs. He ripped HWSNBN a new one.

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Seriously, what a bunch of low life scum ass artists. >:(

You took the words...
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: raven on February 12, 2015, 12:20:15 AM
Believe me, I could use much worse words.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: JayUtah on February 12, 2015, 12:26:25 AM
It shows he knows, he absolutely must know that he is making false claims that material from the very transmission he takes clips from discredits.

I posted similar clips somewhere, maybe at Clavius.  Sibrel insisted those parts of the video were not part of the package he received from NASA.  Spacecraft Films producer Mark Gray showed by means of the clips Sibrel used elsewhere that he had to have been sent the clips that included both the distant Earth and the CM window frame.  Finally he admitted he had been given those clips, but that "they are fake."
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: JayUtah on February 12, 2015, 12:27:51 AM
I get it, even the truth to blow open the doors on the US government and their multibillion dollar swindle has a price on it. And there was me thinking Sibrel was a man of honour in search for liberty and justice for the American tax payer. Sheesh  ???

In the words of someone who used to be very, very close to Sibrel and who contacted me out of conscience, he's a man searching for a way to keep himself in a style he otherwise wouldn't be able to afford.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: Luke Pemberton on February 12, 2015, 12:33:20 AM
I posted similar clips somewhere, maybe at Clavius.  Sibrel insisted those parts of the video were not part of the package he received from NASA.  Spacecraft Films producer Mark Gray showed by means of the clips Sibrel used elsewhere that he had to have been sent the clips that included both the distant Earth and the CM window frame.  Finally he admitted he had been given those clips, but that "they are fake."

Convenient. I have never really given Sibrel much attention, but my understanding is that he never really had an original thought about the moon hoax,  much of his 'evidence' is attributed to him piggy backing on Percy and Bennett. Where Sibrel is concerned, I am of the opinion that he sensationalised the hoax theory with his brand of production and tabloid journalism, as witnessed by his hand-on-bible stunts.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: beedarko on February 12, 2015, 12:45:05 AM
From what these various producers told me, Sibrel won't lift a finger without at least a four-figure check.

Which reinforces my belief that the propellant behind Sibrel's nonsense is profit.  He strikes me as the type of guy who, in a different era, could've made a comfortable living as a sideshow barker.

Others like Blunder seem more motivated by ego than $$.

Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: raven on February 12, 2015, 01:10:41 AM
The best part is, even if he claims that the above clip is fake, it still means he needs a new explanation for how exactly it was allegedly faked.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: Luke Pemberton on February 12, 2015, 01:12:59 AM
The best part is, even if he claims that the above clip is fake, it still means he needs a new explanation for how exactly it was allegedly faked.

He's not original enough to produce new evidence.  ;D
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: smartcooky on February 12, 2015, 03:47:32 AM
Seriously, the producers at Zig Zag Productions complained because so few conspiracy theorists agreed to appear.  They called me about two months before productions and read off a list of names they were shopping, and asked me if there were any more they should consider.  They said they really tried hard to get David Percy and/or Mary Bennett, but they explicitly declined.  Sibrel was on the list, but they said he asked for too much money so they dropped him.  The only people they could get were Rene and Kaysing.  From what these various producers told me, Sibrel won't lift a finger without at least a four-figure check.  And he demands license fees for the use of any of his material.  So the only reason Sibrel's material doesn't get included in various documentaries is because he wants more money than the producers are willing to pay.

I thought Rene and Kaysing were both dead.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: ajv on February 12, 2015, 04:55:17 AM
I thought Rene and Kaysing were both dead.

But cheap!
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: Dr_Orpheus on February 12, 2015, 06:49:56 AM
I thought Rene and Kaysing were both dead.

But cheap!

They were that way when still alive.  Why would being dead change anything?
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: JayUtah on February 12, 2015, 11:00:12 AM
I thought Rene and Kaysing were both dead.

Not when the National Geographic program was made in 2003.
Title: Re: Brother Bart claims omission from documentary due to "newly discovered" evidence
Post by: JayUtah on February 12, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
The best part is, even if he claims that the above clip is fake, it still means he needs a new explanation for how exactly it was allegedly faked.

If I recall correctly, he claims it was newly faked and inserted into the film library they now hand out, whereas the package they gave out when he got his didn't include that.

Two problems with that.  First, Sibrel's duplicitous editing isn't limited to just that one case.  We can cite a number of examples from his film where he simply edited away the parts of the record that contradicted his claims.

Second, there is a prominent example of pre-existing complete Apollo footage.  While Sibrel was still in high school, geologist Larry Haskin (WUSTL) obtained the whole Apollo video library from NASA and made VHS copies of it, including Apollo 11 and the clip Sibrel said didn't exist until NASA needed to discredit him.  Copies of the Haskin tapes are rare, but they confirm Sibrel is mistaken about the smoking gun clip that proves his dishonest editing.

Comments disabled on his video, maybe so no one actually involved with the production could call him on his crap.