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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by Allan F on October 01, 2024, 02:11:55 PM »

The active part is silver bromide crystals, which isn't a gas by any stretch of the imagination. It is a colloid (like a dried slurry) of AgBr crystals and a gelatine medium, bonded to a backing of plastic. Since it is a DRY colloid, there is no water that can evaporate, not really anything that will react in vacuum. The Silver Bromide crystals are contained in the gelatin, and can't go anywhere either. I really don't see any significant "outgassing" even after prolonged exposure to vacuum. Please ask them to clarify what exacty it is that would "outgas"

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by benparry on October 01, 2024, 10:24:15 AM »

The film used was similar to the film used in the U2s high altitude special film that you can't buy at Walmart.  The Lunar probe Lunar Orbiter used a FILM to capture moon images, and that was IIRC the same film used in Apollo missions.  You won't switch a HB because he "knows" the truth on what he proposes, but you are actually correct.

Oh i know that haha

Would the film outgas and would this cause an issue

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by bknight on October 01, 2024, 09:00:29 AM »

The film used was similar to the film used in the U2s high altitude special film that you can't buy at Walmart.  The Lunar probe Lunar Orbiter used a FILM to capture moon images, and that was IIRC the same film used in Apollo missions.  You won't switch a HB because he "knows" the truth on what he proposes, but you are actually correct.

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The Hoax Theory / Film Outgassing

« Last post by benparry on October 01, 2024, 07:49:07 AM »

Afternoon All. Another debate on FB haha.

Even though i am a half decent photographer i have never used film. I have been challenged by a hoaxer that the film would have outgassed in the vaccum which would have rendered it either unusable or certainly not possible to take the great photos that we see.

What can i go back to him with please. This is above my head

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Apollo 11 and 17 imaged by South Korea

« Last post by bknight on September 28, 2024, 08:37:19 AM »

You know where A16 landed, but just given an image you might be hard pressed to describe what it shows.  Very fuzzy image in my mind.

The Apollo 16 images are in this folder:

https://www.kari.re.kr/kpds/published/KPLO/KPLO/PublicRelease/LUTI/Data/202309

in RAW (unprocessed), PP (Partially Processed, ie cleaned up to remove digital striping), and CAL (selenorectified images with corrected projection). They're the LUTIB images taken on 23/09/24 at 11:59:42, so look for KPLO_LUTIB_230924_115942 in the filename.

I'm finding these by downloading the all .xml files and searching for 'Apollo'. They're pretty generous with their labelling, and more often than not a mission reference will be somewhere nearby rather than a direct overpass, but there are certainly plenty of actual hits. They aren't as sharp as the LRO, or India's OHRC, but they still show clear evidence of Apollo!

I didn't mean to imply that Apollo did not go to the Moon.  My thought was that the RAW, PP image was fuzzy and if you were shown the image and did not know anything about the image you would have a difficult task identifying what it shows.

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Apollo 11 and 17 imaged by South Korea

« Last post by BertieSlack on September 28, 2024, 04:31:36 AM »

Very fuzzy image in my mind.

They aren't as sharp as the LRO, or India's OHRC, but they still show clear evidence of Apollo!

Exactly. It's excellent corroboration.

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Apollo 11 and 17 imaged by South Korea

« Last post by onebigmonkey on September 26, 2024, 02:03:17 PM »

You know where A16 landed, but just given an image you might be hard pressed to describe what it shows.  Very fuzzy image in my mind.

The Apollo 16 images are in this folder:

https://www.kari.re.kr/kpds/published/KPLO/KPLO/PublicRelease/LUTI/Data/202309

in RAW (unprocessed), PP (Partially Processed, ie cleaned up to remove digital striping), and CAL (selenorectified images with corrected projection). They're the LUTIB images taken on 23/09/24 at 11:59:42, so look for KPLO_LUTIB_230924_115942 in the filename.

I'm finding these by downloading the all .xml files and searching for 'Apollo'. They're pretty generous with their labelling, and more often than not a mission reference will be somewhere nearby rather than a direct overpass, but there are certainly plenty of actual hits. They aren't as sharp as the LRO, or India's OHRC, but they still show clear evidence of Apollo!

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General Discussion / Re: Polaris Dawn

« Last post by Dalhousie on September 25, 2024, 07:00:17 PM »

Does anyone have any information about the modifications to the Dragon Capsule for this mission?

I get the impression there must have been at least two cameras, one of them on some sort of boom to allow the longer shots of the astronauts in the hatch, and possibly a light with the camera? But my (fairly brief) searching hasn't uncovered anything.

Thank you!

I think one camera was mounted on the folded back nose cone.

Have to confess after all the hype it was a bit under-whelming.

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Apollo 11 and 17 imaged by South Korea

« Last post by bknight on September 25, 2024, 05:36:31 PM »

You know where A16 landed, but just given an image you might be hard pressed to describe what it shows.  Very fuzzy image in my mind.

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Apollo 11 and 17 imaged by South Korea

« Last post by onebigmonkey on September 25, 2024, 12:35:23 PM »

Apollo 16, imaged 24/09/23