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Offline Ishkabibble

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Re: New mare basalt composition discovered by Chang′e-3
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2015, 03:31:12 PM »
It's also worth mentioning that Jarrah has blatantly avoided, when challenged, actually admitting that the Chang'e 3 mission even landed on the Moon (he has previously claimed that China is faking its manned space program in a swimming pool). So Jarrah is claiming that Chang'e 3 scientific data contradicts Apollo while simultaneously prevaricating about the authenticity of Chang'e 3 itself. Of course if he does admit that Chang'e 3 is on the Moon then he'll need to explain why his hero Kaysing was so wrong about the photographic visibility of stars and the effect of a lander's descent engine on the lunar surface. Other aspects of the moon hoax theory are busted by the Yutu rover's sharp rover tracks in the lunar surface, and the clear shadow-side visibility of the lander itself. Jarrah has studiously avoided answering such questions.

Someone ought to make a video about that for YT.  Preferably someone that JW watches. Maybe AstroBrant, or someone else who JW has filed false DMCA claims against...

Wouldn't that be interesting?
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Offline Luke Pemberton

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Re: New mare basalt composition discovered by Chang′e-3
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2015, 04:27:25 PM »
I was actually watching one of his latest money grabbing videos when I caught this very quick section. He posts a screenshot of a sale of his Nasa Mooned America book(written by the only Rene that actually causes indigestion) and it shows a transaction for $75.
http://imgur.com/LOcyv1w

They are fools for thinking that there's any gravitas in the book. They're even bigger fools for parting with money for that book, as it's freely available on the internet.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 04:29:46 PM by Luke Pemberton »
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Re: New mare basalt composition discovered by Chang′e-3
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2015, 05:00:56 PM »
This must've been quite soon after Jawwah had used bogus DMCA claims to have your account closed, so I never actually saw any of your videos myself. It's a shame that I won't see them now.

He never got my account closed. He removed many videos using bogus DMCA claims. The reality is that he managed to make a mess of using Newton's laws and arrived at a false conclusion by introducing 2 degrees of freedom into his math, whereby he compared apples with pears. I explained to him that the only way he could compare apples with apples was by changing the density of the rock he used in his calculation, which of course he cannot do in reality.

He tried to mock me claiming that I said 'one can change the density of rock.' I never actually said or implied this, I was simply highlighting his folly by using parametric excursions to highlight his error, and one of those excursions linked to an hypothetical change of rock density to make his comparison fair. Many people pointed this out to Jarrah, but he did not understand the point being made.

I don't really care to be honest, as I know in my own mind he screwed up his math and physics, and I know just about everything he has submitted as evidence for his idiot beliefs is flawed. Making videos to counter his nonsense is an utter waste of time as when he's wrong he won't retract his nonsense or simply ignores counter evidence that he cannot debunk simply (SG Collins is a good example).

I decided to give up on video making after that point as it was pointless trying to convince him, time consuming, a poor format for debate and he also made veiled threats against a UK academic that he thought was me. I decided that someone so unstable and dangerous was best ignored. I can understand that the debate gets vociferous, but threatening to find someone after doc-dropping their details on a YT video over a conspiracy theory was rather worrying. After police involvement following his threats I was advised to remove myself from that forum.
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Re: New mare basalt composition discovered by Chang′e-3
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2015, 06:11:58 PM »
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I decided to give up on video making after that point as it was pointless trying to convince him, time consuming, a poor format for debate and he also made veiled threats against a UK academic that he thought was me. I decided that someone so unstable and dangerous was best ignored. I can understand that the debate gets vociferous, but threatening to find someone after doc-dropping their details on a YT video over a conspiracy theory was rather worrying. After police involvement following his threats I was advised to remove myself from that forum.
It is sad when the "debate" get so ugly that it turns into actual threats, I find myself wondering if one of the YT's will attempt to hack into me or at least attempt after heated exchanges, involving swearing name calling and indignation of some of those "critical" thinkers.
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Re: New mare basalt composition discovered by Chang′e-3
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2015, 07:17:58 PM »
bknight, In your Reply #18 I think you messed up who said what in your use of the quote feature.
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Re: New mare basalt composition discovered by Chang′e-3
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2015, 09:08:58 PM »
bknight, In your Reply #18 I think you messed up who said what in your use of the quote feature.
Yes, I did, but I can't fix it now.
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Re: New mare basalt composition discovered by Chang′e-3
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2015, 04:09:38 PM »
After police involvement following his threats I was advised to remove myself from that forum.

Typical... Punish the victim mentality.

You did nothing wrong. You were not at fault, you were not responsible, and yet you had to give up your right to use a public venue?

That's several different kinds of wrong.
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