I've tried to keep Venus in view, as an experiment, when it is visible in the morning but it disappears, to the naked eye soon after sunrise. I have tracked it well into sunrise with a telescope though.
Yeah, me too. A couple of times I tried to find it with my telescope just before sunset when it still couldn't be seen with the naked eye. It's much the same with trying to find Mercury most of the time, as it's always in the twilight.
