Questions needing answers

[JayUtah]

I want a new term. This is like a Gish Shoulder Roll -- a gallop that goes off in some orthogonal direction.

As was the case with another recent sublimator-denier, I suspect his real cause is not Apollo.  Apollo is just the proxy for his real crusade.

[bknight]

I want a new term. This is like a Gish Shoulder Roll -- a gallop that goes off in some orthogonal direction.

As was the case with another recent sublimator-denier, I suspect his real cause is not Apollo.  Apollo is just the proxy for his real crusade.

I tend to agree with your analysis.

[Trebor]

Oh, my.  Oh, this is just painful.

This.
And if this thread has skipped away from Apollo completely could it be moved into 'other conspiracies' so it can be ignored....

[gillianren]

Side note, I'm pretty sure he's deleting posts, since I see responses to ones that are missing when I read the page.

[raven]

Side note, I'm pretty sure he's deleting posts, since I see responses to ones that are missing when I read the page.

Ooh! Someone tell Lunar Orbit! That ain't cricket!

[sts60]

I just read this thread. 

Tradosaurus, I am a space systems engineer, and amateur astronomer, and I've worked for guys who made Apollo happen - who were, in fact, part of NASA's forerunner agency.  Nothing you have said betrays even the slightest familiarity with the Apollo record, nor understanding of spaceflight or astronomy in general, nor engineering, nor even with the most basic principles of Newtonian physics.   

Please don't continue to claim you're a mechanical engineer; it's not nice to lie to us, and it's not in accordance with the principles of the Chrisitianity you profess.  And I have worked with UT aerospace engineers, and even though I went to an old SWC rival, I will stand up for them against your fumbling attempt to attach your incompetence to that institution.

Also, please don't blame your determined ignorance on Catholicism.  I'm Catholic, and the Church, whatever its faults, doesn't subscribe to the nonsense you're peddling. 

But this is all moot anyway, because frankly I think you're just trolling - and not very imaginatively at that.

[Sus_pilot]

Another question that flat earthers can't seem to answer: why does a flight from Frankfurt to Singapore take 12.5 hours, when a flight from Singapore to Frankfurt, flying over the exact same trajectory takes 13.5 hours?

The real question should be why doesn't the flight against the supposed rotation of the earth ( take less than a few hours since the plane would be flying against 1,000 to 700 mph rotation (depending upon what latitude you were at)?

Why would the plane magically lose the velocity it had on the ground simply by taking off?  What force would cause that?

Good question.  What holds the atmosphere glued to the earth while it is rotating 1,000 mph?  Magic?

Friction.

[Peter B]

So tradasaurus, care to go start a topic in "Other Conspiracies" covering:
A) Why in the world everyone who knew the Earth was flat would want to keep it secret...

A) Simple:  control over you and your money...

This must be something like the Underpants Gnomes out of South Park for whom Step 1 was to steal all the underpants and Step 3 was profit, with Step 2 remaining undefined.

In Tradasaurus's case it appears to go: Step 1: Convince people the world is round; Step 2: ?; Step 3: Take control of you and your money.

However, Tradasaurus, if you can fill in the details of Step 2 I'm all ears (or eyes in this case).

[Peter B]

Simply, the sun is less than 4,000 miles in diameter and much closer to earth (less than 10,000 miles).  The reason satellites don't see it is because satellites don't exist (google "satellite")

G'day Tradosaurus and welcome to Apollohoax.

Cool picture.

Looking at it, I have some questions.

Could you please explain how the flight time from Sydney (Australia) to Santiago (Chile) is less than double the time from London to New York (14 hours to 7.5 hours)?
Do people in Argentina and the USA see opposite sides of the Moon?
Why can't people in the southern hemisphere see Polaris? Why do we see different constellations at different latitudes?
If the Sun is always above the Earth, how is it that we see it pass below the horizon?

Cheers

Would you mind looking at the document called "200 Proofs the Earth is not Spinning ball" at http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html?
You can also watch it on youtube.  It answers those questions and has pictures to better explain it.

Could you please list the point numbers which cover my questions. I don't have time to search through 200 points to find your answers for you.

Thank you.

[DD Brock]

So tradasaurus, care to go start a topic in "Other Conspiracies" covering:
A) Why in the world everyone who knew the Earth was flat would want to keep it secret...

A) Simple:  control over you and your money...

This must be something like the Underpants Gnomes out of South Park for whom Step 1 was to steal all the underpants and Step 3 was profit, with Step 2 remaining undefined.

In Tradasaurus's case it appears to go: Step 1: Convince people the world is round; Step 2: ?; Step 3: Take control of you and your money.

However, Tradasaurus, if you can fill in the details of Step 2 I'm all ears (or eyes in this case).

OMG, why have I never made the Underpants Gnome connection, it all makes perfect sense now!

I am so stealing this, lol!

[Zakalwe]

Guys,
Can we please stop feeding tradosaurus's personal obsession about FE? This thread is about Apollo. To me, it's clear that tradosaurus is using moon denial as a "gateway drug" to his main obsession which is whacko ideas about the shape of the Earth. Its crank magnetism and personally I think he is doing this to troll and for shits'n'giggles. A separate thread has been created where he can go indulge his main delusion if he so wishes.

Tradosaurus, to bring this back on track, I am waiting for you to back up your claim that NASA was created by the National Socialist party. I have asked this before and I'm not sure that you have answered it.  Please provide reputable evidence or have that claim thrown out.

I've also got a couple of other points that need clarification. You asked earlier:

How did the astronauts fit through a 22" docking hatch with their backpacks on when hooking back with the command module?

You have been asked to show where in the mission profile that they passed through the tunnel fully suited and with PLSS backbacks on. You have been told that you had the tunnel dimensions incorrect (some research, eh?) Do you still maintain that the astronauts passed through the docking tunnel, fully suited with PLSS backbacks after docking with the CM? Otherwise please withdraw the claim.

You also showed your ignorance when you claimed that :

I'm imagining putting food, water, fuel, parachute, 3 men and instruments in a room this size and I don't see much room for the astro-nots to move around.  So basically for 3 days, 3 astro-nots were most likely strapped to their chair and had eat, pee/poop somehow and dispose of their waste.  In staged videos from NASA it shows the 3 astro-nots moving around the CM as if there is plenty of room. 

Now I'm going to ignore your childish use of "astro-nots" and your obsession with bodily functions (for now), but I do want you to clarify why you think that the CM had "water, fuel, parachute" inside the habitable space. Is that still your thinking or have you realised that you were incorrect about that too? The hilarious part is that you linked to a cutaway illustration that showed exactly where the fuel was located and you still managed to get it wrong! When submitting your answer can you also show where you think the parachutes and their mortars were stowed (here's a hint, if the parachutes were stowed in the habitable space, then how were they deployed? Did they open a window and throw them out? )

There's plenty more, but let's ease ourselves back into this, shall we?

[Zakalwe]

I owe tradosaurus an apology- he did answer the question that NASA was founded by the Nazi party. I missed it as I was trying to avoid the Flat Earth turds that he was dropping all over the place. This is what he said:

This is my personal conclusion although it is not a singulary held belief.  I'm just connecting the dots.

Which means that his claim is nothing more than opinion. Probably born of his paranoia and clear hatred of things that he cannot understand. A less ambiguous, less weasely phrase than "connecting the dots" would have been "I made it up to support my twisted world view".   A moments research would show you, tradosaurus, that the NAZI party had nothing to do with the founding of NASA and that it was founded by President Eisenhower. You might have heard of Dwight D. Eisenhower- he spent years of his life contributing to the defeat of Nazism. I think that you are doing a massive dishonour to the memory of a man that had more bravery and courage in his big toenail than you have in your whole body, and who achieved more in his time on this (spherical!) planet than you will ever dream of.

As to whether your belief is singularly held, I don't care two hoots if your crackpot belief is held just by you or by a number of other people.  Relying on argumentum ad populum gets you nowhere. Though I am certain that that such a belief is anything but a popularly held opinion. No, it's the domain of paranoid conspiracy theory nuts like you tradosaurus.

So, now you have been shown that you are happy to peddle hatred and lies to support your own twisted and erroneous world view and, importantly, you have admitted doing so (albeit using weasel words). I hope that you see this as a cathartic moment, though I wouldn't bet on it. Lets see you face up to your other outlandish claims, starting with the points that I posted above.

[onebigmonkey]

I owe tradosaurus an apology- he did answer the question that NASA was founded by the Nazi party. I missed it as I was trying to avoid the Flat Earth turds that he was dropping all over the place. This is what he said:

This is my personal conclusion although it is not a singulary held belief.  I'm just connecting the dots.

Which means that his claim is nothing more than opinion. Probably born of his paranoia and clear hatred of things that he cannot understand. A less ambiguous, less weasely phrase than "connecting the dots" would have been "I made it up to support my twisted world view".   A moments research would show you, tradosaurus, that the NAZI party had nothing to do with the founding of NASA and that it was founded by President Eisenhower. You might have heard of Dwight D. Eisenhower- he spent years of his life contributing to the defeat of Nazism. I think that you are doing a massive dishonour to the memory of a man that had more bravery and courage in his big toenail than you have in your whole body, and who achieved more in his time on this (spherical!) planet than you will ever dream of.

As to whether your belief is singularly held, I don't care two hoots if your crackpot belief is held just by you or by a number of other people.  Relying on argumentum ad populum gets you nowhere. Though I am certain that that such a belief is anything but a popularly held opinion. No, it's the domain of paranoid conspiracy theory nuts like you tradosaurus.

So, now you have been shown that you are happy to peddle hatred and lies to support your own twisted and erroneous world view and, importantly, you have admitted doing so (albeit using weasel words). I hope that you see this as a cathartic moment, though I wouldn't bet on it. Lets see you face up to your other outlandish claims, starting with the points that I posted above.

Actually I disagree that he answered or that you need to apologise. He claimed that NASA was founded by the Nazi party. It was not, it happened to employ some people who used to be members of it, just as the Soviets did in their program. Not everyone in operation paperclip ended up at NASA, and not everyone was a goose-stepping murderer.

NASA was founded by the US Government. The rest is his spin.

[Zakalwe]

Actually I disagree that he answered or that you need to apologise. He claimed that NASA was founded by the Nazi party. It was not, it happened to employ some people who used to be members of it, just as the Soviets did in their program. Not everyone in operation paperclip ended up at NASA, and not everyone was a goose-stepping murderer.

I took it as his best and final answer. He was asked a number of times and that was the response that he gave. I missed the response in my post of earlier today.

Its clear to me, and I presume to the vast majority of people that have read his weasel words, that he just made it up, or just repeated someone else's nonsense without bothering his lazy arse to check.

[bknight]

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Its clear to me, and I presume to the vast majority of people that have read his weasel words, that he just made it up, or just repeated someone else's nonsense without bothering his lazy arse to check.

His behavior in this thread  proves that statement.