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Offline frenat

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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #390 on: June 24, 2012, 07:59:53 PM »
As entertaining as some of these ideas for the bingo spaces are, I think we need to limit the overall number of possibilities and weed out some of the more obscure, or else nobody will ever win.

A previous forum regular here suggested on another site that it was filmed in superfluid helium.
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #391 on: June 24, 2012, 08:32:03 PM »
Quote from: frenat on June 24, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
As entertaining as some of these ideas for the bingo spaces are, I think we need to limit the overall number of possibilities and weed out some of the more obscure, or else nobody will ever win.

That's a good point. So yeah, I think we've got enough for now. We'll try it out (assuming we get another HB) and make adjustments if necessary.

We won't limit it to one HB per card, so if we get two or three HBs the game should move faster.
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #392 on: June 24, 2012, 10:18:22 PM »
Quote from: frenat on June 24, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
As entertaining as some of these ideas for the bingo spaces are, I think we need to limit the overall number of possibilities and weed out some of the more obscure, or else nobody will ever win.

I think traditional bingo uses the numbers 1 to 75, so, at least in theory, I don't have a problem with having a large number of possibilities; however, I agree the obscure ones should be weeded out.  In real bingo, every number has an equal probability of being called, so we should use only those items that have a reasonably good chance of showing up in an HB debate to try to even out the odds.
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Offline AtomicDog

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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #393 on: June 24, 2012, 11:08:50 PM »
We really went to the moon, but faked the photos (for some crazy reason) anyway.
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #394 on: June 24, 2012, 11:13:39 PM »
Quote from: LunarOrbit on June 24, 2012, 06:02:44 PM
- Only aware of Apollo 11 and 13

Which makes you wonder what they thought happened to 12.
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #395 on: June 24, 2012, 11:36:02 PM »
Quote from: LunarOrbit on June 24, 2012, 06:02:44 PM
- The spacecraft was too small inside (DAKDAK was concerned about the volume of the CM, so this change will cover both possibilities)
Should we include claims so bizarre and idiosyncratic to one CT that even most CTs don't repeat them? Or should we limit ourselves to claims that gain general traction and are constantly repeated?

I'd add "the claimed laser reflectors could be natural". Yes, this goes beyond pointing out that pre-Apollo laser ranging experiments were done off the moon; it claims that the retroreflectors now said to be there are natural surface features. And besides, they could have been placed by robots...
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #396 on: June 25, 2012, 12:35:04 AM »
IDW (don't ask) once claimed 11 was faked but the other landings were real (though he also thought the 13 crisis was staged).

I'd suggest the "We only went once, in 1969" entry be made more general (unless that's really meant to be just about people who've only ever heard of 11 yet have an opinion...).
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #397 on: June 25, 2012, 12:59:22 AM »
Would this warrant its own space? I've heard it claimed missions from 1969-72 were fake, because of the Van Allen Belts, which is a bit of a contradiction, no?
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #398 on: June 25, 2012, 01:51:47 AM »
So are we actually going to play this game?
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #399 on: June 25, 2012, 12:21:31 PM »
We just need some hoax believers now......
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #400 on: June 25, 2012, 12:24:21 PM »
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We just need some hoax believers now......

:::: crickets ::::

Maybe they all moved to Australia...
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #401 on: June 25, 2012, 01:27:50 PM »
I've got a feeling there were only a half dozen or so active hoax believers on the entire internet (not counting sock puppets) and either I have banned them, we've scared them away, or they've died of old age.
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #402 on: June 25, 2012, 01:47:03 PM »
Active HBs willing to get on this forum, anyways!

Because trust me, there's lots of HBs out there.  One was in my Astronomy class in Del Mar College.  Which made me wonder why she took the course.
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #403 on: June 25, 2012, 01:57:19 PM »
Quote from: SolusLupus on June 25, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
Active HBs willing to get on this forum, anyways!

Because trust me, there's lots of HBs out there.  One was in my Astronomy class in Del Mar College.  Which made me wonder why she took the course.

To get arguments she could use, of course. And if she doesn't get them, she can then argue that the truth is being suppressed by Academia.
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Re: Strong arguments versus weak arguments.
« Reply #404 on: June 25, 2012, 02:00:45 PM »
Quote from: LunarOrbit on June 25, 2012, 01:27:50 PM
I've got a feeling there were only a half dozen or so active hoax believers on the entire internet (not counting sock puppets) and either I have banned them, we've scared them away, or they've died of old age.
You could issue a blanket amnesty, and see what happens. 
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