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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1320 on: September 25, 2020, 11:01:46 AM »
His brain is a mess.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1321 on: September 25, 2020, 11:06:18 AM »
I've heard serious discussion in some circles about tertiary syphilis.  I genuinely didn't pay attention enough to him to know if he was like this in the '80s, though I definitely already knew I didn't like him.  It is my impression that he's getting worse, but it's also possible that he's actually managing to lose filters.  The only problem with that is the idea that he had them to lose.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1322 on: September 25, 2020, 12:10:12 PM »
A lot of his speech, outside of cases where he's reading material written for him, is very much stream of consciousness. And he doesn't have much of that; he also has no focus and no discipline. He is just not qualified for any leadership role in so many ways, and that's before you get into his bigotry and various -isms.

So many people in the US don't just seem to realize the damage he's done to the country, especially internationally; the US just can't be trusted any more. Even in Canada, which had a good relationship with the country up to now, the majority of the people view the country with suspicion (something like 83% of Canadians didn't like or trust Trump, and that was before the pandemic).

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1323 on: September 25, 2020, 10:16:06 PM »

Let the bidding war for Jay's relocation city begin...!
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1324 on: September 26, 2020, 11:50:25 AM »
Jay should just be his own country, like the Vatican. That way no one will fight over who gets to have him. ;)

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1326 on: September 27, 2020, 05:56:24 AM »
Not to mention this. Wow. I don't really have the words for this right now. Well, I have a few. Terrifying. Infuriating. Appalling.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1327 on: September 27, 2020, 06:02:17 AM »
"Wise men speak because they have something to say!" "Fools speak, because they have to say something!" (Plato)

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1328 on: September 27, 2020, 07:06:33 AM »
Just don't forget that there are millions of Americans who think he's just doing a brilliant job, and love that he's sticking it to those lib-tards.

Yes, he's behaving outrageously, and he's probably set records for fibbies told and impeachable offences committed.

But being outraged isn't the answer. The Democratic Party people in Congress are just exhausting themselves pursuing each new outrage and I suspect ordinary Americans are moving on. I read earlier today that polls show most Americans don't care about the new Supreme Court recommendation. So the Dems shouldn't worry about it either - just let her be confirmed and find an issue that ordinary Americans do care about. (I suspect that the Dems in Congress would benefit from some views from the outside by non-American political operators about more tactical application of their resources...)

For example, I heard an interesting comment on the radio today - that American businesses want certainty more than anything, and Locus Of Chaos Trump is not delivering that. Instead, even if he might be more anti-business than Trump, Biden might be a more favourable candidate for the business sector because he's going to deliver the certainty that they want.

As for Trump, if the product of the Lincoln Project is anything to go by, what Trump dislikes most is mockery.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1329 on: September 27, 2020, 07:33:17 AM »
And like most narcissist I've encountered, he's wafer thin in the skin department with absolutely zero true sense of humour about himself. Hell's bells and bodkin, remember how much of a tizzy he went into simply because some folks said he had small hands? Nonetheless, as much fun as it is to poke at this side of him, and by All is it fun, it shouldn't distract from the vile things he is doing and encouraging and allowing to happen.

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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1330 on: September 27, 2020, 11:53:05 AM »
The "small hands" thing was first a joke in the '80s, and it still makes him angry.

It annoys me that people still think the Democrats are just getting angry and not doing anything.  For one thing, enormous numbers of bills have passed the House, and they're being consistently ignored by Mitch McConnell, who won't do anything about them.  For another thing, what are they supposed to be doing?  They're limited by people who simply won't do anything bipartisan who control the Senate and the White House.  They could overcome the White House alone, but with the Senate Republican, nothing gets done.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1331 on: September 27, 2020, 11:55:04 AM »
Also, "don't worry about the new Supreme Court appointment" is honestly terrible advice.  Most Americans may not care, but that's because most Americans aren't really thinking about how important a Supreme Court justice is to their daily lives.  Keeping this woman out of the Supreme Court isn't just partisan bickering; the Supreme Court would, with a 6-3 Republican majority, eliminate vast swathes of rights from the American people, and there's a lot of speculation that it would be used to override the will of the people come November.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1332 on: September 27, 2020, 12:03:44 PM »
Nonetheless, as much fun as it is to poke at this side of him, and by All is it fun, it shouldn't distract from the vile things he is doing and encouraging and allowing to happen.

And the vile things being done in relative secrecy by the Republican-controlled machinery of government while the media remains obsessed with Donald Trump.  At one time I believed that's why they nominated George W. Bush.  He was an incompetent buffoon with an electable pedigree. His job was to distract attention away from Dick Cheney, who was more in charge of the White House, and from the Republicans elsewhere in government who would then be free to enact policy with the media's eye focused on Bush.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1333 on: September 27, 2020, 12:14:36 PM »
Also, "don't worry about the new Supreme Court appointment" is honestly terrible advice.

Which is another reason not to fill a Supreme Court vacancy so close to an election.  It conflates the debate over the choice with electoral campaigning.  They don't mix well.

I gather the advice to ignore the appointment stems from the inevitability at this point that the nominee will be a conservative and that the court has no near future other than a 6-3 conservative majority.  If not this woman, then someone just like her.  But I adamantly wish it were not this person.  Roe v. Wade is all but overturned at this point.  And given the somewhat vulnerable reasoning in Obergefell v. Hodges, I can't say that marriage equality stands a chance of survival.

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[T]here's a lot of speculation that it would be used to override the will of the people come November.

I think it's all but certain at this point that the Republicans will challenge the outcome of the election in court.
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Re: The Trump Presidency
« Reply #1334 on: September 27, 2020, 12:17:41 PM »
I've heard serious discussion in some circles about tertiary syphilis.

There was also the suggestion that he had a small stroke, or a series of them, last year about this time.  I'll honestly be surprised if he remains passably competent until the Juanuary 2021 inauguration.
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