The Trump Presidency

[LionKing]

Seems he is winning! I hope it does not mean more deaths for us Lebanese and for Gazans!

[raven]

It's second verse, same, or worse, than the first! King Donald the Orange is crowned.
May any gods out there help us all.

[Luke Pemberton]

It's second verse, same, or worse, than the first! King Donald the Orange is crowned.
May any gods out there help us all.

Read an article a few weeks ago, it could go several ways. He will reflect and learn from his last Presidency, and without the questions of Russian electoral interference and his idiotic COVID response hanging over him, he might be more reassured, humble and restrained. He will want to leave his mark as the POTUS that did great things. Or he'll be even more vengeful and spiteful after the 2020 defeat, and attempt to rule like an Emperor.

From what I've seen thus far, he's going to be the latter and I predict he will dole out contracts to billionaires with a promise they will funnel some of those tax dollars into the Trump Organisation. The man is a a grifter, and he needed to Presidency to avoid prison and ruin.

I understand the birthplace right of citizenship is written into the constitution, so it is unclear how he can deliver that policy. Was it an election pitch to gain power?

I hope the constitution of the US is strong enough to withstand whatever onslaught he unleashes upon the US. Looking at our own polls, we could be the meth lab next door in 4 and a bit years.

[raven]

Well, he pardoned his fellow insurrectionists, which is disturbing on several counts. The man doesn't reward loyalty for its own sake. He'll punish disloyalty, the Great Leader must be obeyed in all things, but discards his toys when done with them, which to me suggests he still has use for them.

[Obviousman]

Well, he pardoned his fellow insurrectionists, which is disturbing on several counts. The man doesn't reward loyalty for its own sake. He'll punish disloyalty, the Great Leader must be obeyed in all things, but discards his toys when done with them, which to me suggests he still has use for them.

For the next election, no doubt. When he illegally tries to become President for a third time (having done something dodgy to ignore the Constitution).

[raven]

Well, he pardoned his fellow insurrectionists, which is disturbing on several counts. The man doesn't reward loyalty for its own sake. He'll punish disloyalty, the Great Leader must be obeyed in all things, but discards his toys when done with them, which to me suggests he still has use for them.

For the next election, no doubt. When he illegally tries to become President for a third time (having done something dodgy to ignore the Constitution).

He's already trying to get around the 14th Amendment, what's one more.

[LunarOrbit]

That's assuming there is another election.

[Luke Pemberton]

That's assuming there is another election.

Under what circumstances/set of scenarios can he prevent another election? I'm not being snippy with that question. Are there emergency powers by which he could postpone the election, such as serious civil unrest that he incites?

[raven]

That's assuming there is another election.

Indeed, a legit worry from someone who told a crowd, "You don't have to vote again" after this election.

[LunarOrbit]

People keep saying there are guard rails to stop him from doing things... but then he does it and no one does anything about it.

He has stacked the Supreme Court and lower courts with loyalists. They will find ways to interpret the laws and Constitution to permit his actions.

[LunarOrbit]

And here we go... it's day #3 of his second term and Republicans are already trying to amend the Constitution to allow him to have a third term. It certainly won't succeed, and he'll be 82 years old in 4 years... but it still tells you what they are thinking.

[raven]

And here we go... it's day #3 of his second term and Republicans are already trying to amend the Constitution to allow him to have a third term. It certainly won't succeed, and he'll be 82 years old in 4 years... but it still tells you what they are thinking.

My surprise, she is as unending as a puddle in Death Valley in July.

[rocketman]

And here we go... it's day #3 of his second term and Republicans are already trying to amend the Constitution to allow him to have a third term.

Emphasis on “him” - the wording of the amendment would only permit a third term for those whose first two terms were non-consecutive, thereby excluding Bill Clinton, George W Bush, and Barack Obama.  But, Joe Biden could still run again when he’s 86.

[smartcooky]

Never going to happen.

To pass Congress, a change to the Constitution requires a 2/3 majority of both the House and the Senate. The 535 seats in Congress currently stand at  273 (R) v 262 (D)... Republicans would need at least 321 sets to pass the proposal and send it to the State Letgislatures for ratification.

To ratify a Constitution change it requires a minimum of 75% of the states to agree. There are 49 Bicameral State Legislatures and one unicameral (Nebraska), so 50 Upper Houses and 49 Lower Houses, a total of 99 chambers. Republicans would need to control 75 of those chambers, but they only control 57.

Even if, somehow, it were to pass Congress though some Senate and House rules changes, it would never pass the ratification stage. No Democrat chamber is going to vote The Fat Orange Turd a third term.

[Peter B]

Never going to happen.

To pass Congress, a change to the Constitution requires a 2/3 majority of both the House and the Senate. The 535 seats in Congress currently stand at  273 (R) v 262 (D)... Republicans would need at least 321 sets to pass the proposal and send it to the State Letgislatures for ratification.

To ratify a Constitution change it requires a minimum of 75% of the states to agree. There are 49 Bicameral State Legislatures and one unicameral (Nebraska), so 50 Upper Houses and 49 Lower Houses, a total of 99 chambers. Republicans would need to control 75 of those chambers, but they only control 57.

Even if, somehow, it were to pass Congress though some Senate and House rules changes, it would never pass the ratification stage. No Democrat chamber is going to vote The Fat Orange Turd a third term.

Presumably the Republicans need to control both houses in the bicameral states to ratify the change, so it's a little harder than just a random selection of 75% of the 99 houses.