Just to be clear...
Nothing about what follows is a clarification. You're simply trying to tell people you're one thing while you behave like something else. You're trying to schmooze your way out of being repeatedly called on that misbehavior.
I am not part of some flat earth, ufo loving, conspiracy bat crazy brigade.
Your behavior is indistinguishable from theirs. When cornered on the implausibility or downright factual incorrectness of your claims and beliefs, you simply spew nonsensical conspiracy-minded drivel. In any case, that there may exist points of view and behaviors farther out on the fringe does not mean you're entitled to be excused for yours. If you are unwilling to take intellectual responsibility for the truth or falsity of your beliefs, you will not get much respect here.
I am just ... looking to have a dialectic discourse on some questions I have.
No. Today especially you have provided ample evidence that you have no interest in an honest dialogue. None of your behavior is consistent with an honest exchange of ideas or an honest test of your beliefs. Your questions have been amply answered. You reject the answers, insult the people who volunteered for them, sneer at people who know things you don't, and insist that your ongoing ignorance be respected as erudition. I can't imagine who you think you're fooling.
Whether the landings were real or not really don't mean much in the end.
Of course it matters. The truth always matters. And when it's a truth that, for many, defined a decade if not a century, it matters even more. It stands as an example of what people can accomplish if they are well-qualified, well-funded, and well-led. You are pulling out all the stops to find fault with it, so it clearly matters to you that it should be
disbelieved. And no, you don't get to excuse your misguided attacks by insisting that your target is unimportant. That's just a common pre-flounce rhetoric; you feel better abound abandoning a debate that you've lost if you can convince yourself it didn't matter in the first place.
It is not going to change our lives one way or another.
You clearly don't believe that, because you classify faked-Apollo along with a whole bunch of other occurrences you say exemplify inhumanity, dishonesty, and corruption on an international scale. As Gillianren correctly specified, you can't make a coherent, consistent argument to save your life.
I just find it a fascinating subject.
No. The regulars here, whom you try to write off as ideologues, are curious and fascinated by the subject. Instead, you grasp at every straw trying to demean and discredit it. Even when posting "inadvertently," you simply bounce from one desperate hoax argument to the next. You think that by attacking it, you will appear erudite and sophisticated -- "woke." Nobody is buying that.
And I am not here to crush people's love of the subject or their idols.
No. Writing off your critics as idol-worshipers doesn't help you. People here defend Apollo not because the people involved are their "idols" but because they honestly care for what's true. You claim you are respectful, but you can't resist all the little digs against your critics. Therefore no one is obliged to treat you as friendly.
Now quit trying to curry favor with your critics. Quit trying to pretend you're aligned with them. Get on with answering the pertinent questions -- in this thread, those that regard your attacks on the legitimacy of the lunar module. We're tired of this insincere posturing that's taken up most of your posting today.
