Our favourite "Dr" turned up in a debate recently

[TimberWolfAu]

For your viewing pleasure (I haven't finished at the time of this post, so no spoliers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=NMElN2-35tI&fbclid=IwAR0T9dzCbpG14FuvjVz2V_Ww7AQNPymzYilzM4o9A818cCg0tkUKtgpzfEU

I will, however, recommend time stamp 1:20:00 for something..... interesting.

What I also found interesting is Clayton College University. Now, after a quick look, I found a Clayton State University and a Clayton College of Natural Health.

In my, admittedly very rough, search, I'm not sure if Clayton State University has a doctorate program (a comment on https://www.phdportal.com/universities/17338/clayton-state-university.html reads "Clayton State University is accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges to award associate, baccalaureate, and masters degrees.")

Now Clayton College of Natural Health, well, that's a bit more interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_College_of_Natural_Health

Definitely more interesting, it seems like it was a bit of a 'diploma mill' and was non-accredited.

[onebigmonkey]

I haven't watched it, but I did read through the comments. Suffice to say the "Dr" doesn't come out of it too well.

[TimberWolfAu]

Both our good "Dr" and his partner seemed half asleep, and were only waiting for trigger words that they could deliver well worn responses to.

[Dalhousie]

So I learned something today - NEET stands for Not in Education, Employment, or Training.

AKA dropouts.

[TimberWolfAu]

'Not a Dr' Rasa has turned up for another debate, with McToon this time. Toon has done his homework on Rasa. Amusingly, Rasa posted this in The Moon-Landing Hoax FB page before the debate, but hasn't bumped the post back to the top or even commented since the debate happened, just quietly letting it sink.

[Bryanpoprobson]

MCTOON is doing a follow up debate in July, with Marcus “yes they did, oh wait no they didn’t land on the Moon” Allen. Does anybody have any links to specific ballistic tests carried out on the AL7 suits? As this is one of his question he will face. I can find references to ballistic tests but no actual documentation or images.

[bknight]

MCTOON is doing a follow up debate in July, with Marcus “yes they did, oh wait no they didn’t land on the Moon” Allen. Does anybody have any links to specific ballistic tests carried out on the AL7 suits? As this is one of his question he will face. I can find references to ballistic tests but no actual documentation or images.

Marcus is the classic grifter.

[onebigmonkey]

Rasa is the grift that keeps on giving. I say grift, that would imply that he knows the missions happened and is just in it for clicks and glory, but I do believe he is genuinely stupid.

There was this one time that he trumpeted loudly to his adoring audience that he had identified the building at Canon AFB used to film the landings. It was marked in blue on a map. We all know what blue on a map means, right? Well, he didn't, and he didn't realise it was an artificial lagoon (see the end of this
https://onebigmonkey.com/itburns/bartbs/bartsbull.html ).

I have a part of my site dedicated to quick debunks of stupid claims, and he makes up a hefty chunk of them.

His latest one is a classic. He claims that the Surveyor 3 images show telescopic tubing on the soil scoop arm used to retract and extend it. The Apollo images he's found seem to show a thin line. The reason for that is that it's a steel tape, and what seem to him to be joints in tubing are just markings on the tape. It's the same error people make with the PLSS blade aerials.

A couple of people have tried to reason with him and point out that no, it's a thin band and it's the viewing angle, and no, that's not how these type of pantograph arms work but he's having none of it.

His latest post on it is to urge people to download the Surveyor images as NASA are redacting them, which is just a flat out lie.

See the fun here:

https://onebigmonkey.com/itburns/bunker.html#Taped

He's somehow managed to convince people that he's an authority on the subject but he is absolutely clueless.

[TimberWolfAu]

MCTOON is doing a follow up debate in July, with Marcus “yes they did, oh wait no they didn’t land on the Moon” Allen. Does anybody have any links to specific ballistic tests carried out on the AL7 suits? As this is one of his question he will face. I can find references to ballistic tests but no actual documentation or images.

I'm not so sure this is actually happening now. Saw some posts from MCToon regarding getting the debate set up, and some of the back and forth was leaning towards that the Apollo Detectives wanted Toon to come to them, rather than a third party as he often does these days, and that they had questions, rather than they would be providing evidence of hoax. There didn't seem to be any actual replies/comments from Marcus though, so not sure what's happening with this one.

Will have a dig and see if I can find them again.

[onebigmonkey]

The defectives have long tried dictate terms in any kind of discussion, and then cry victory if people (quite reasonably) don't accede to their demands. Doesn't surprise me at all that Marcus would back out.

[raven]

Like a pigeon declaring victory in chess because it defecated on the board, and the other player quit in disgust.

[TimberWolfAu]

Knew I'd seen a recent reference to the debate with Marcus, I Was just looking in the wrong spot.

https://mctoon.net/apollo-detectives/

Maybe I should send him the story on when Marcus had a met up with the BIS (British Interplanetary Society)?

[TimberWolfAu]

Got curious, emailed MCToon.

Apparently it's still on the books for 23 July, should be on Modern Day Debate again.

[Bryanpoprobson]

[bknight]

Listening for an hour was too much for me in his seminars.