Telematry Data

[najak]

Apollo 12 through 17 (and Skylab, ASTP and Shuttle up to 1987) all used sequential color full resolution 29.97 frames per second cameras. This signal was not needed to be scan converted in order to be viewable on a standard SD TV set - note given the RGB filtering, the image luminance flickers in conjunction with the differences in the seperate color channels). However, in order to have a full gamut color image, the sequential material was matrixed in a custom built color converter.

As evidence to the existance of these tapes, for example, recent color conversions were made of the Apollo 16 TV feeds (known for a fact, as I hold reference copies). These were made from the original recordings. The ASTP press conference exists as the monochrome pre-color converted recording. The separate Red Blue Green recordings exist as well.

Thank you!  Do you have any links that substantiate your claims?  If I'm going to accept something as fact, it helps to have more sourcing other than "Dwight from ApolloHoax.net".

[dwight]

"Live TV From the Moon" would be a good place to start.

[Jason Thompson]

But the source signal tapes are missing? (before conversion to NTSC)

No such conversion was needed for the Apollo 12-17 TV transmissions.

Was there any footage on the tapes that was lost, in a format that we no longer have?

No.

And how do you know there wasn't footage that simply wasn't converted to NTSC?  (meaning that the source formatted tapes have footage no one has seen)

Because no such conversion was needed, and because there is continuous audio and transcription for all missions, and the TV transmissions were called out in there and match up to the video material. Why do you feel the need to invent this possible missing footage? The reports about the Apollo 11 tapes are very clear about what they contained that was of interest. I fail to see where your basis is for concluding thre might be additional TV footage we never saw.

[Mag40]

But the source signal tapes are missing? (before conversion to NTSC)

For Apollo 11 SSTV! The recordings would have improved the TV footage to a certain degree, but not massively better than the enhanced digital version.

Was there any footage on the tapes that was lost, in a format that we no longer have?

The same question as before, same answer. Jayutah gave a great explanation on this and how it would be ultra difficult to even read today.

[Jason Thompson]

Thank you!  Do you have any links that substantiate your claims?  If I'm going to accept something as fact, it helps to have more sourcing other than "Dwight from ApolloHoax.net".

Links maybe not. A book or two, most likely....

[LunarOrbit]

Apollo 12 through 17 (and Skylab, ASTP and Shuttle up to 1987) all used sequential color full resolution 29.97 frames per second cameras. This signal was not needed to be scan converted in order to be viewable on a standard SD TV set - note given the RGB filtering, the image luminance flickers in conjunction with the differences in the seperate color channels). However, in order to have a full gamut color image, the sequential material was matrixed in a custom built color converter.

As evidence to the existance of these tapes, for example, recent color conversions were made of the Apollo 16 TV feeds (known for a fact, as I hold reference copies). These were made from the original recordings. The ASTP press conference exists as the monochrome pre-color converted recording. The separate Red Blue Green recordings exist as well.

Thank you!  Do you have any links that substantiate your claims?  If I'm going to accept something as fact, it helps to have more sourcing other than "Dwight from ApolloHoax.net".

Dwight, published author and expert on the TV cameras used by NASA.

[Mag40]

Apollo 12 through 17 (and Skylab, ASTP and Shuttle up to 1987) all used sequential color full resolution 29.97 frames per second cameras. This signal was not needed to be scan converted in order to be viewable on a standard SD TV set - note given the RGB filtering, the image luminance flickers in conjunction with the differences in the seperate color channels). However, in order to have a full gamut color image, the sequential material was matrixed in a custom built color converter.

As evidence to the existance of these tapes, for example, recent color conversions were made of the Apollo 16 TV feeds (known for a fact, as I hold reference copies). These were made from the original recordings. The ASTP press conference exists as the monochrome pre-color converted recording. The separate Red Blue Green recordings exist as well.

Thank you!  Do you have any links that substantiate your claims?  If I'm going to accept something as fact, it helps to have more sourcing other than "Dwight from ApolloHoax.net".

Dwight, published author and expert on the TV cameras used by NASA.

https://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/dwightSB.html

[dwight]

These days, also acclaimed film-maker and Skylab A/V expert.

[TimberWolfAu]

These days, also acclaimed film-maker and Skylab A/V expert.

Which raises the question, where's the best place to get 'Live from the moon' from? That benefits you the most and not the corps?

[dwight]

LO, I hope this is allowable, if not let me know and Ill remove it. Directly from www.apogeebooks.com

[Zakalwe]

Thank you!  Do you have any links that substantiate your claims?  If I'm going to accept something as fact, it helps to have more sourcing other than "Dwight from ApolloHoax.net".

If only you were so discerning when it comes to claims made by your fellow hoax-believers!

[najak]

"Live TV From the Moon" would be a good place to start.

OK Mr. Boniecki, thanks for this suggestion.   Do you release this as an E-Book, like Kindle?

[najak]

If only you were so discerning when it comes to claims made by your fellow hoax-believers!

THIS is why I'm HERE.   I realize my bias due in large part to the company I've kept.    I'm still sitting on a heap of bias, based upon "facts" for which I cannot find refutation.   So I came here.   If I'm going to find refutations, then here is best place to find them.

Likewise, people here, don't seem to think they have any bias -- they are "TD's".   While within the MLH community, it's the same but reversed.

This is why we need neutral grounds for discussion.  We are One.  We're on the same side, in the end.   Bad treatment of MLH guys, makes things worse.

[Zakalwe]

This is why we need neutral grounds for discussion.  We are One.  We're on the same side, in the end.   Bad treatment of MLH guys, makes things worse.

I see your lips moving and I've read the words BUT I do not for one minute believe a word of it. You have consistently paraded yourself as the smartest guy in the room, demonstrated that you are an incredibly slow learner. Indeed, in my view, you have demonstrated many of the characteristics of the fundamentalist you have admitted to being- one that denies everything and anything that is in opposition to your embedded world view.

You are also a sore loser who cannot be gracious in defeat.

[Miss Vocalcord]

This is why we need neutral grounds for discussion.  We are One.  We're on the same side, in the end.   Bad treatment of MLH guys, makes things worse.

I see your lips moving and I've read the words BUT I do not for one minute believe a word of it. You have consistently paraded yourself as the smartest guy in the room, demonstrated that you are an incredibly slow learner. Indeed, in my view, you have demonstrated many of the characteristics of the fundamentalist you have admitted to being- one that denies everything and anything that is in opposition to your embedded world view.

You are also a sore loser who cannot be gracious in defeat.

It is starting to sound an awful lot like AWE130 "we are the whisper" ; who believe it or not seems to be back online too