Watching the detectives...

[onebigmonkey]

Jarrah has. at least, weighed in with a correction for their decibel levels (even if he can't spell decibel), but he seems blissfully unaware that there was a required sound limit in the CM of around 75 decibels, what with them wanting to be able to speak to the crew and all:

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20160000818/downloads/20160000818.pdf

and that the crew complained more about the noise from spacecraft systems than engines.

They also seemed to have forgotten that a big hope for them is assuming the crew stayed in LEO. Much of that engine noise is directed ast getting them to orbit. Your move detectives.

And how could I miss Scott Henderson's comment on Apollo 17's launch where he claims, and this is a direct quote:

"you can see the sound waves going up and it's vibrating the air that it makes it turn to light. Okay? It actually vibrates the molecules in the air and it becomes light."

Citation most definitely required there Scott.

[Obviousman]

And how could I miss Scott Henderson's comment on Apollo 17's launch where he claims, and this is a direct quote:

"you can see the sound waves going up and it's vibrating the air that it makes it turn to light. Okay? It actually vibrates the molecules in the air and it becomes light."

Citation most definitely required there Scott.

Where is the Nobel prize for this man?

[onebigmonkey]

In their latest vomitus, another rambling and barely coherent "if I ran the zoo" session, Scott Henderson states categorically that nothing landed on the lunar surface in the 1960s. Nothing. Not one thing. Everything was done with simulations and telescopes.

Which makes it all the more remarkable that modern probes image that hardware on the surface, and provides detailed imagery showing features no-one knew existed before they started, you know, landing things on the surface.

They pronounce themselves baffled at all the failed modern landings, using them as some sort of proof that the unmanned Surveyor (and the Soviet ones too) couldn't have happened). They skip over the ones that have actually landed successfully, but their fans are too dumb to notice that.

They question why the ALSEPs were turned off, given that they apparently would work forever and cost nothing to run - obviously all the facilities on the ground are free to run, are staffed by volunteers and everyone analyses the data for fun not a salary, right?

They complain that the TV cameras weren't left on forever, pointd at Earth, because that would have a point, and those batteries in the LRV that they also claim weren't up to the job anyway now suddenly last for decades. They whine that "it makes no sense" (nothing ever does to them) to immediately turn the cameras off the second they get in the LM and that you could use them to film after the EVAs and the take off, all the while showing footage taken after the EVAs and the launch back to Earth. They even, bizarrely, claim that missions had 3 TV cameras - one stood up, on on the side of the LM, and one on teh rover. Dear sweet Lord above fellas are you so dumb you don't know it was just one camera they moved around? Are you that thick?

[onebigmonkey]

And they're back with yet another half hour of 'if Ir and the zoo' fallacies and argumentum ab ignorantia.

Williams spends a good few minutes whining that he can't find a diagram with a label for the PLSS water tank. He spent A WHOLE 15 MINUTES looking and couldn't find one. It took me 2 minutes to find one with 'feedwater reservoir' clearly identified. Over to you Bob.

Their next whine is that there are diagrams showing astronauts standing on a box to use the LM optical alignment telescope. Why oh why, they argue, did they waste money putting in a box for them to stand on that could be moved out of the way or perhaps serve some other purpose, when they could massively over-engineer a periscope type arrangement that would add weight, complexity and design costs to the structure? Gee detectives, which solution do you think makes more sense?

There's more, but I hadn't had breakfast when I started watching it so felt nauseous.

[onebigmonkey]

A tiny amount of googling and actual effort shows that the 'box' they're so concerned about is actually a PLSS. It's just one of the storage spots.

"Why would they stand on something so important they might die, it makes no sense to me..." in 3..2..1..

[onebigmonkey]

HIlariously, no sooner than they pronounce htemselves baffled as to what the myusterious box that the diagram shows could be, they then go on to show images taken inside the LM showing...wait for it...a PLSS in exactly that position.

They then decide that the PLSS has a long groove down the centre of it and it's supported by a block of wood, and the groove is there to provide ventilation.

What they think is a block of wood is actually a mounting plate that can be returned to a floor recess, and for which there is a convenient place at either end of the PLSS.

Apparently Scott thinks there's also a piece of wood on the rover seat. There is indeed something there to support the PLSS, but it's not wood, you blithering idiots.

After this they get puzzled by a sticker with a radiation symbol on it, but fail to read the wording that alerts people to radiactive material on switches (they helped them to glow in the dark).

Finally, they show themselves absolutely incapable of distinguishing between the real thing and a test up of the LM for training.

They are phenomally dumb in every area you can imagine, and their entire schtick is to strawman some garbage into existence and proclaim that it makes no sense. If they weren't conning money out of people (yes, there's a paypal link) it would be hilarious.