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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2025, 12:18:08 PM »
Oh My goodness! It was a trick! A trap! A ruse! He's so ignorant of the actual transcripts he was hoping someone else would go through it them and find Earth references so he could post the actual Earth elevations.

Or at least that would have worked if he still wasn't insisting that the elevation is around 70 degrees, which absolutely no-one else, and no astronomical software ever, will state that it is.

Whiel verifying (again) that he doesn't know what he's talking about (he doesn't), I finally got around to correcting Stellarium's 'moon' landscape. It gives the location as that of the LM, whereas it's actually taken from Station 9, and has south incorrectly positioned.

Attached is  the Stellarium Landscapes folder for the moon that is more accurate.
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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #76 on: December 08, 2025, 12:59:27 PM »
Straydog02 has found this panorama

https://moonpans.com/vr/apollo17_eva3.htm?r=j

which he thinks proves that Apollo 17's Earth was high in the sky.

It hasn't occurred to him that the black in the moonpans sky might be filled in.

Here's the actual pan



Here's a photo taken at the LM



and here's that photo superimposed on the pan.



Looking a lot like how Stellarium says it should:


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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #77 on: December 10, 2025, 05:07:56 PM »
The above Stellarium screenshot has been pointed out to the little doggy. He has dismissed it, because he has this idea that Stellarium references the horizon in the picture, not the true horizon. He's absolutely deluded in that, because all the scenery consists of is a png file. There's nothing in it for the software to reference other than it's location on the lunar surface. The figures it is quoting are from a datum. The standard issue of Stellarium (as I pointed out earlier) has the Apollo 17 site incorrectly plotted and it will still give the same values as the one in my corrected model.

He has never used the software, and has no idea how it works. Just to please him, however, here's exactly the same location and date with zero landscape.



He's also claimed that there are functions in the LRO's quickmap that can show the Earth in the lunar sky, and that it shows Earth at 70 degrees,

It does not. You can display an image of Earth with data describing its location, but it doesn't place it in the correct location.

Here's a snip from a recording I made of Taurus Littrow with the date set at the Apollo 17 EVA, and with the Earth showing. The elevation angle is blurry, but it is very definitely around 44 degrees. It's kind of ironic that straydog02 is putting such faith in the accuracy and fidelity of the LRO when elsewhere he's claiming it's all faked.



Fetch doggy, fetch.