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Offline Obviousman

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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #90 on: January 04, 2026, 01:03:14 AM »
I did heaps of debunking work regarding Jack White's absurd claims about 20 years ago. If you ever want work regarding specific claims (e.g. When at Surveyor the image of the Apollo 12 crew does not show the LM in the distance, etc), let me know which claim and I'll dig up my old images / posts.

CHeers :)

What I would be intersted in is if Jack White's 'research' exists outside the largely meme based format on aulis, ie where he lays out his processes, sources, that kind of thing. What's exhibited at aulis are effectively his conclusions, not how he arrived at them.

Let me give you an insight into the "rigour" of Jack's 'investigations': I once accused him of dismissing my rebuttals out of hand, not reviewing what I have provided. His reply was words to the effect of:

I am always open to new evidence supporting the claim the Moon landings were real however since we know the landings were faked, any evidence in support of the landings must also be faked and therefore a waste of my time to examine.

Offline onebigmonkey

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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #91 on: January 04, 2026, 03:03:45 AM »
Meanwhile Rasa is assembling a whole new collection of smoking guns. Ooh goody!

He has declared that shadows are under studio lights (with converging light beams no less) because the shadows are blurry at the edges.



His evidence that studio lights would produce this effect is as follows:








Pretty convincing, no?

It has not occurred to him that the shadow he points out as sharp is between two blurry shadows. How would that work Rasa?

How are you defining sharp Rasa? What arbitrary standard are you applying? IS it, do you think, that the nature of the powdery surface, with a hint of astronaut movement, might be causing that blur? Have you considered that the nature of the ground is reflecting light all over the place, and that the shadow is exactly what you'd expect? Like this:



Dean Talboys has also declared that the shadow doesn't match the undulating ground surface, and it ws probably added after the fact. Guess it doesn't appear in the 16mm footage and live TV then, right?



Offline TimberWolfAu

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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #92 on: January 04, 2026, 10:14:24 AM »
Meanwhile Rasa is assembling a whole new collection of smoking guns. Ooh goody!

In the end, isn't this just that camera is closer to the astronauts own shadow, so will see the umbra portion of their shadow more clearly than the umbra of the further astronaut? That as a shadow gets further away from the object that is casting the shadow, the umbra expands and becomes easier to see from a distance.

From my own \/, the green arrows show where the shadow is furthest from the casting object, causing them to soften/blur, whilst the red arrows show that when the object is near, the shadow is a lot sharper. Added bonus, this is in sunlight too. Took a whole bunch of examples for their current shadows claim, I might even get to use them when my suspension expires, if I don't just get banned outright first.

Offline TimberWolfAu

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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #93 on: January 05, 2026, 12:55:53 AM »
Whoops, put umbra instead of penumbra in my last post on the second use. Should read; That as a shadow gets further away from the object that is casting the shadow, the penumbra expands and becomes easier to see from a distance.

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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #94 on: January 05, 2026, 06:44:03 AM »
I mean there'll be photos taken by unmanned probes that confirm his 'proof' right? Right?





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Offline jfb

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Re: Watching the detectives...
« Reply #95 on: January 05, 2026, 01:23:35 PM »
Meanwhile Rasa is assembling a whole new collection of smoking guns. Ooh goody!

He has declared that shadows are under studio lights (with converging light beams no less) because the shadows are blurry at the edges.


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This has to be performative; he has to be pretending to be that ignorant for his audience (who also have to be pretending to be part of the tribe).  I noticed this effect when I was a small child walking to elementary school early in the morning; I noticed it when playing with a flashlight.  I happened to look at an entry for solar eclipses in an encyclopedia one day and figured out what was happening. 

I was literally eight years old when I understood what was going on; I refuse to believe that people who graduated high school and have jobs and are allowed to drive on public roads have trouble with it.