So, who wants to win 1 million Euro?

[Noldi400]

And let's not forget that neither a pot of boiling water nor a hot oven is remotely analogous to the thermal conditions on the Moon.

The stupid, it (almost) burns!

Another case of "not even wrong". Putting a feather into a 200^o oven has nothing to do with lunar surface conditions. But he's even wrong about what will happen to the feather in the oven!  So not only is his experiment totally meaningless, he assumed the wrong result.

It makes you wonder how some people ever learn to put their socks on before their shoes...

[Glom]

That too. Seriously, the whole thing was flabbergastingly insane.

You have to remember that they didn't start with such egregious misunderstanding of physics. They invented it when they thought it might help their conspiracy theory.

[ka9q]

I especially like it when they end one of those baffingly insane, not-even-wrong claims with:

"It's physics!"

Cartoon physics, perhaps.

[JayUtah]

Another case of "not even wrong". Putting a feather into a 200^o oven has nothing to do with lunar surface conditions. But he's even wrong about what will happen to the feather in the oven!  So not only is his experiment totally meaningless, he assumed the wrong result.

That's what makes it a Stundie.  In order to be a Stundie nominee, it's not enough merely to be wrong.  You have to be spectacularly wrong.

On a more serious note, I never know what to do with those arguments that are wrong in multiple ways.  In law you attack all the ways in which an argument is wrong, because you never know which one(s) the trier of fact will deem valid, so you present the entire case.  But often in informal debate it's better to stick to one line of rebuttal and follow it to the end.  The argument is clearer that way and avoids the impression that you're "all over the place."

[JayUtah]

I especially like it when they end one of those baffingly insane, not-even-wrong claims with:

"It's physics!"

Cartoon physics, perhaps.

Indeed.  When I hear arguments along the lines of, "The official story violates the laws of physics," what I hear in my head is, "I'm giving you my socially- and politically-motivated emotional response to a load of intuition someone else spoon-fed me, but in order to make it sound less like made-up nonsense I'm going to make vague allusion to a required class I barely squeaked through in high school and haven't used in the intervening 15 years."

[Halcyon Dayz, FCD]

On GLP there are currently a bunch of folk who refuse to understand that the mass of an asteroid (specifically 2012 DA14) is irrelevant to its orbit.
Even after having it explained to them twenty times over.

It's annoying to say the least.

[Andromeda]

I just had a look at some of the DA14 threads on GLP.  I am stunned not only at the wilful ignorance but at the appalling abuse.  I feel a bit sick

[Abaddon]

I just had a look at some of the DA14 threads on GLP.  I am stunned not only at the wilful ignorance but at the appalling abuse.  I feel a bit sick

Aww, now you made me go look at the stupid.

[smartcooky]

On GLP there are currently a bunch of folk who refuse to understand that the mass of an asteroid (specifically 2012 DA14) is irrelevant to its orbit.

[devil's advocate]So if the moon was much more massive than it is in reality, say, it was the same physical size that it is now, but had the mass of Jupiter, it would trundle along happily in it's current orbit around the Earth; 29.53 days at at distance of 384,000 km? Really?[/devil's advocate]

[Chew]

I just had a look at some of the DA14 threads on GLP.  I am stunned not only at the wilful ignorance but at the appalling abuse.  I feel a bit sick

Linky? Please don't make me search GLP for it.

[frenat]

I especially like it when they end one of those baffingly insane, not-even-wrong claims with:

"It's physics!"

Cartoon physics, perhaps.

Indeed.  When I hear arguments along the lines of, "The official story violates the laws of physics," what I hear in my head is, "I'm giving you my socially- and politically-motivated emotional response to a load of intuition someone else spoon-fed me, but in order to make it sound less like made-up nonsense I'm going to make vague allusion to a required class I barely squeaked through in high school and haven't used in the intervening 15 years."

I would say that most of them never even had the one class.

[Abaddon]

I just had a look at some of the DA14 threads on GLP.  I am stunned not only at the wilful ignorance but at the appalling abuse.  I feel a bit sick

Linky? Please don't make me search GLP for it.

There are two pages of DA14 threads over there. Have one at random. NASA dunnit http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2139821/pg1

[gillianren]

I would say that most of them never even had the one class.

Probably not.  It wasn't required in my high school.  You had to take one year of "physical science" (and a year of "life science") to graduate, but you could choose among several options--in my school, you had chemistry, physics, and a class just called "physical science," aimed at . . . shall we say, those who weren't college-bound?

[Chew]

I just had a look at some of the DA14 threads on GLP.  I am stunned not only at the wilful ignorance but at the appalling abuse.  I feel a bit sick

Linky? Please don't make me search GLP for it.

There are two pages of DA14 threads over there. Have one at random. NASA dunnit http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2139821/pg1

Thanks.

[Andromeda]

On GLP there are currently a bunch of folk who refuse to understand that the mass of an asteroid (specifically 2012 DA14) is irrelevant to its orbit.

[devil's advocate]So if the moon was much more massive than it is in reality, say, it was the same physical size that it is now, but had the mass of Jupiter, it would trundle along happily in it's current orbit around the Earth; 29.53 days at at distance of 384,000 km? Really?[/devil's advocate]

He did say "asteroid" which means M>>>>m.