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Offline ApolloGnomon

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Re: Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2012, 11:35:20 PM »
Nobody goes to Mir anymore,

Well, Actually . . . .

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The basic structural frame of Zvezda, known as "DOS-8", was initially built in the mid-1980s to be the core of the Mir-2 space station. This means that Zvezda is similar in layout to the core module (DOS-7) of the Mir space station. It was in fact labeled as "Mir-2" for quite some time in the factory.

. . .  the ISS is MIR-2. Kinda.

But I love the way "theorists" totally ignore the hundreds of non-meat-carrying space missions that happened in the 40 years since Apollo. I'd say those are a pretty good track record.

Offline BazBear

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2012, 02:40:23 PM »
Within forty years of the Wright Brothers flight across the Atlantic Ocean in 1903...

I'm not a member on the JREF boards.  Someone should nominate that for a stundie.

Someone did.
I was surprised that no one beat me to it.
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Offline Eternidad195

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2013, 08:37:28 AM »
I don't know why you all attack him.  Why don't you examine the Apollo's pictures.
I have a blog about the Apollo's photographs

http://apolloconspiracy.blogspot.co.uk/

And I am not going away

Offline Daggerstab

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2013, 08:53:53 AM »
I don't know why you all attack him.  Why don't you examine the Apollo's pictures.
I have a blog about the Apollo's photographs

http://apolloconspiracy.blogspot.co.uk/

And I am not going away

Good. Then start a new thread about what you think are the crucial arguments against the reality of Apollo.

Offline Mag40

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2013, 08:57:21 AM »
I don't know why you all attack him.  Why don't you examine the Apollo's pictures.
I have a blog about the Apollo's photographs

http://apolloconspiracy.blogspot.co.uk/

And I am not going away


Look's like a self promoting exercise.....using plagiarised material from numerous sources. Here....let me direct you to two websites that debunk your whole blog -

http://www.clavius.org/

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

Offline dwight

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2013, 09:01:06 AM »
Oh man is there any chance one of you next-gen HBers could actually be a next-genner and start designing websites that dont burn out the human retina after 5 seconds?
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Offline Zakalwe

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2013, 09:12:33 AM »
Oh man is there any chance one of you next-gen HBers could actually be a next-genner and start designing websites that dont burn out the human retina after 5 seconds?

Hey...maybe they NEED nice bright primary colours and big fonts....
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Offline Andromeda

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2013, 09:14:24 AM »
I don't know why you all attack him.

You confuse "attack" and "defence".


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Why don't you examine the Apollo's pictures.


We have.



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I have a blog about the Apollo's photographs

http://apolloconspiracy.blogspot.co.uk/

I took a quick look but the layout and colours made me feel nauseous.  Please state your claims here (it's in the rules).



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And I am not going away

As another poster said, please start a new thread laying out your exact claims and the evidence for them (by evidence, I mean known science).
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Offline Andromeda

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2013, 09:18:53 AM »
A quick Google search shows that a user named "Eternidad195" is a big fan of Hunchbacked's YouTube videos.  Are you the same person?
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Offline Glom

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Re: Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2013, 09:31:09 AM »
I don't know why you all attack him.

He came in gung ho making audacious yet derivative claims that are without basis. He then never returned to defend or retract those claims.

It is those things we have attacked.

Offline Jason Thompson

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2013, 09:56:48 AM »
I don't know why you all attack him.

We deal with his claims.

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Why don't you examine the Apollo's pictures.

We have. I have seen every one of them.

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I have a blog about the Apollo's photographs

Good for you. If you want to discuss that here then you'll need to present your arguments here, not by linking us to your website.

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And I am not going away

Good. Discussion here is always welcome.
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Offline gwiz

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2013, 11:20:04 AM »
I have a blog about the Apollo's photographs
Having had a quick look (the headache-inducing colours prevented a longer look), my impression is that you need to learn the basics of photography, lighting and perspective.  If you understood these subjects, you would see that your claimed anomalies in the Apollo photographic record are in fact easily explained effects.

Bring your best single item of evidence here and we will explain it to you.
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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2013, 11:34:23 AM »
Why don't you examine the Apollo's pictures.
We have. I have seen every one of them.
From you I believe that.

Hoaxies often claim they have, and then make a statement about them that blatantly demonstrates they haven't.
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Offline JayUtah

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2013, 11:38:26 AM »
I don't know why you all attack him.

We don't attack him.  We refute his claims.  He is arrogant and very wrong, hence he has received the strong response he engendered.

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Why don't you examine the Apollo's pictures.

I have, and I have been consulted professionally about them and have appeared on television (including U.K. television) to discuss them and the theories that say they were hoaxed.  I guarantee each one of the regulars here has studied more of the Apollo photographs, and more about them, than you have.  Kindly do not begin your debate by assuming you know more than your critics.

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I have a blog about the Apollo's photographs

Yes, I see.  Please read a book about effective web design.  Your site is painful to read.

Looking at the first couple of screenfulls, I can see that you're simply repeating the same old nonsense as others have.  You clearly know nothing about radiation, whether in general or as it applies to space.  You have been given the link to my web site.  I suggest you read it, because everything you say on your site was refuted there years ago.  You're simply dredging up old debunked claims.
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Offline BazBear

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Re: NASA's 30 Billion Dollar Scam
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2013, 12:05:29 PM »
Oh man is there any chance one of you next-gen HBers could actually be a next-genner and start designing websites that dont burn out the human retina after 5 seconds?
It's not as "good" Timecube, but he's on the right track! ;)
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