Questions regarding the (alleged) Apollo soundstage.

[Dinorupe]

Hi guys first things first im an Apollo nut and not in any way supporting a hoax theory!
My questions for the hoax advocates are
1.If there is a breeze on the flag (ie its an external set) why do subsequent photos claim to show stage lights?Is the stage outside or inside?
2.In the various photos why cant we see any stagehands,directors,lights or any other equipment  bar the LM.
3.If we are supposed to be able to see stars why cant we see any in the photo showing the flag waving?
I figure its time they were subject to their own criticism!

[Jason Thompson]

Sensible questions. Sadly you won't get sensible answers from any hoax advocate because a) we don't have many here anyway, and b) sensible answers don't actually occur to them. They just warp reality to fit their skewed vision of events.

[Dinorupe]

I just figured id put them out there and hopefully get a reply from reasonable advocate!
I joined the rather hilarious David Icke forums to ask the same questions but they believe the earth is hollow...

[Andromeda]

I just figured id put them out there and hopefully get a reply from reasonable advocate!
I joined the rather hilarious David Icke forums to ask the same questions but they believe the earth is hollow...

And filled with lizards, or something.

Dinorupe, welcome to the boards.   

[Dinorupe]

I joined here because im all for hoax theories (as a form of entertainment) but the sheer militancy of the hoax sites and sheer denial of date that is readily available put me off!

[Zakalwe]

I just figured id put them out there and hopefully get a reply from reasonable advocate!

I think that I can see why you might have a problem....

[darren r]

I always thought they were arguing that the filming was done on an indoor soundstage and that the flag waved because...erm...someone accidentally left a door open and there was a draught...Of course, that doesn't explain why said breeze didn't also kick up dust.

[Echnaton]

I always thought they were arguing that the filming was done on an indoor soundstage and that the flag waved because...erm...someone accidentally left a door open and there was a draught...Of course, that doesn't explain why said breeze didn't also kick up dust.

Remember, it was dustless dirt.  Sifted and washed so that potentially aerosolized particles were removed, while being fine enough to look like sand.

Dinorupe, your questions are great for pointing out the contradictions within the ideas proposed by various hoax proponents and even contradictions by individual hoax proponents.  Unfortunately there is no resolution within the context of a hoax theory, because the resolution ultimately requires admitting the reality of Apollo. 

[Bob B.]

I always thought they were arguing that the filming was done on an indoor soundstage and that the flag waved because...erm...someone accidentally left a door open and there was a draught...Of course, that doesn't explain why said breeze didn't also kick up dust.

I thought it was from the air conditioning.

[Zakalwe]

Remember, it was dustless dirt.  Sifted and washed so that potentially aerosolized particles were removed, while being fine enough to look like sand.

Wow. They went to all that hassle to wash and sift tonnes of sand, yet realised the blooper reel where the flag was moving. They really were idiots at NASA, weren't they? Or should we blame Stanley Kubrick??

[cjameshuff]

Wow. They went to all that hassle to wash and sift tonnes of sand, yet realised the blooper reel where the flag was moving. They really were idiots at NASA, weren't they? Or should we blame Stanley Kubrick??

It's a common assumption that it was Kubrick, but:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-40-5935HR.jpg

It was obviously J.J. Abrams.

[Jason Thompson]

I do love the Kubrick idea, mainly because, unlike nearly all HBs, I know where Kubrick lived and worked at the time of Apollo, and where pretty much all of his films were made, and it wasn't anywhere near a soundstage in Arizona...

In my case, it was a tad closer to home!

[Andromeda]

What I find entertaining is that hoax believers can rarely, if ever, agree on anything (even within their own arguments)... whereas, as we have demonstrated on the "€1m" thread, independent engineers and physicists do agree down to decimal points and beyond.  It's almost as if physics is consistent, or something 

Yet, somehow, HBs miss this pretty big clue.

[Zakalwe]

I do love the Kubrick idea, mainly because, unlike nearly all HBs, I know where Kubrick lived and worked at the time of Apollo, and where pretty much all of his films were made, and it wasn't anywhere near a soundstage in Arizona...

In my case, it was a tad closer to home!

They're just mere details.

I love Stephen Fry's view on it...

*Caution* there some risqué comments in there, in case anyone is easily offended.

[Dinorupe]

The only conspiracy i can see is the USSR whipping up the hoax claims of it being a fake to make Americans lose faith in their government but the infamous Fox special in the 90's came well after the Cold War had peaked.
Be ironic if the conspiracy theorists were in fact the victims of one!