Uh oh! Jarrah's mad at SG Collins!

[dwight]

I dont know. Should I even bother investing time and effort into explaining how a certain other Australian is the biggest spin doctor to walk the face of the earth?

The MO is simple. "If you cant baffle them with brains, baffle them with BS". He goes off on every which way to explain how maybe-possibly-he-doesnt-really-know it may have been faked. Funny, in all the 500+ documents I have pertaining to contracted procurement of the TV systems on Apollo and beyond, no mention is made of half the devices and companies our mate has conjured up. Why?

PS. If you look at the references, no mention is made of "Live TV From the Moon". No wonder he gets so much wrong.

[Allan F]

I had to stop that at 1.45. Already there he was going down the dishonest route.

[onebigmonkey]

I had to stop that at 1.45. Already there he was going down the dishonest route.

1.45 seconds is more than enough to realise he's being dishonest.

[dwight]

Man, the guy just can't admit fault at all. Rather than acknowledge the 36mm/16mm snafu, he first accuses SG of Strawman and then back pedals. How cowardly is that for intellectual dishonesty?

As he keeps finding himself in a position of not having clearly expressed himself, would it not be advisable to start implementing a regime of checking that he says what he means with no opportunity for misunderstandings to occur in the first place?? Or is that too much to ask seeing how much it undermines his modus operandi of ensuring he always come out on top?

[Noldi400]

They shot it in black & white and then colorized it! Of course! No one would ever notice that!

[dwight]

Yeah. I still dont know how they could have shot at 45 or 66 or 541 frames a second and still maintain the 2 field artifacting of Red Blue or Green in the 29.97 color matrixed signal. I am constantly amazed all the wonderous technical things NASA could do excepting of course to land on the moon

[gillianren]

They shot it in black & white and then colorized it! Of course! No one would ever notice that!

Boy, that would have made Roger so mad . . . .

For the record, I don't know if I mentioned it here, but Roger Ebert told me about two years ago that he thought that what we do here is good and noble and important.  Fighting back against hoax believers?  He approved.  Now, if only someone could have convinced him about JFK . . . .

[dwight]

Apparently JW is the only super genius who cant tell the blatant difference between sd video and 16mm film. And blind freddy could tell that the sstv of Apollo 11 is video sourced.

[beedarko]

Did you have to?

No.

As disciplined as I like to believe I am, I don't seem to have much success in looking away from freeway accidents either.

[beedarko]

jw;dw

 

Teach me.

[onebigmonkey]

jw;dw

 

Teach me.

Simple, whenever you feel the need to listen to his gentle soothing voice, look at this picture instead:



Has exactly the same effect on me.

[dwight]

Ahhh the sound of angels singing...

[ejstans]

Apparently JW is the only super genius who cant tell the blatant difference between sd video and 16mm film. And blind freddy could tell that the sstv of Apollo 11 is video sourced.

But how easily would one discriminate between sd video directly capturing a scene vs sd video capturing a projection of a film capture of the scene?

[Jason Thompson]

Each method of capture has its own unique artifacts. Combining them produces a whole extra set of artifacts. Maybe there are many people who wouldn't be able to tell, but there are a large number who would.

[Tedward]

Seen some funny ones over the years with digital.

Not really looked at this last effort from jw (I did try). Assuming the reference a few posts up is on analogue and "SD" refers to standard definition (not SDI)? Really need to see the formats and changes I would have thought?

A thread a while ago on the camera was very interesting and I learned quite a bit there and the film would fit the camera (that is the recorded record). The path of the light into the camera to earth is there. It is doable. Now he invents a method to fit his stance. Instead of conning money for the moon shot he can devote his loot to buying up this kit and proving it.