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Offline Andromeda

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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2015, 04:40:09 PM »
AFAIK is like an anecdote.


Only if you make assumptions about what knowledge I may or may not have and how I came by it.


Lots of information on general healthcare and pregnancy planning:

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/planning-pregnancy.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Fertility/Pages/Protectyourfertility.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Infertility/Pages/Prevention.aspx

women, at least in our part of the world, don't often read things on the internet. it has to be in the clinic. so I ask again, is there a nutrition check up among the standard check ups done? there either is or isn't. there can be Dr.s perhaps more aware than others who might ask about these issues, but is it standardized?

i can only speak for my own part of the world, not yours.

Why don't you go to a clinic and ask?  I'm not actually responsible for educating you.
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2015, 04:43:45 PM »
Who says I'm not sympathising?  Or empathising, for that matter.  I think women deserve to be given evidence-based care, that's the ethical thing to do.  False hope isn't sympathy.

You have assumed I have no sympathy for these women.  You have assumed I don't have any understanding of their feelings.  You have berated me for your assumptions.  Frankly, I feel very insulted.

forgive me please..I didn't have such an intention. I just figured out that , me too, as I didn't have certain problems, it was easy for me to speak about other people, but once I had them I changed my mind. I just figured that you not being a woman might not feel how desperate she might get, which I don't intend to fault you for at any rates. I re apologize for this and I hope you disregard it.
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2015, 04:44:15 PM »
Um... Why did you assume I'm not a woman?!
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2015, 04:44:40 PM »
AFAIK is like an anecdote.


Only if you make assumptions about what knowledge I may or may not have and how I came by it.


Lots of information on general healthcare and pregnancy planning:

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/planning-pregnancy.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Fertility/Pages/Protectyourfertility.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Infertility/Pages/Prevention.aspx

women, at least in our part of the world, don't often read things on the internet. it has to be in the clinic. so I ask again, is there a nutrition check up among the standard check ups done? there either is or isn't. there can be Dr.s perhaps more aware than others who might ask about these issues, but is it standardized?

i can only speak for my own part of the world, not yours.

Why don't you go to a clinic and ask?  I'm not actually responsible for educating you.

I am asking, just waiting for the answer, but I'm interested to know if in the States for example it is a standard practice.
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2015, 04:45:09 PM »
AFAIK is like an anecdote.


Only if you make assumptions about what knowledge I may or may not have and how I came by it.


Lots of information on general healthcare and pregnancy planning:

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/planning-pregnancy.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Fertility/Pages/Protectyourfertility.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Infertility/Pages/Prevention.aspx

women, at least in our part of the world, don't often read things on the internet. it has to be in the clinic. so I ask again, is there a nutrition check up among the standard check ups done? there either is or isn't. there can be Dr.s perhaps more aware than others who might ask about these issues, but is it standardized?

i can only speak for my own part of the world, not yours.

Why don't you go to a clinic and ask?  I'm not actually responsible for educating you.

I am asking, just waiting for the answer, but I'm interested to know if in the States for example it is a standard practice.

I'm not in the United States.  I've never even been there.
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2015, 04:46:06 PM »
And the assumptions are piling up. So Andromeda is an American man? Well that's a shock for me, I can tell you....
« Last Edit: February 25, 2015, 04:48:54 PM by Jason Thompson »
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #81 on: February 25, 2015, 04:48:33 PM »
Um... Why did you assume I'm not a woman?!

mmm.. are you? even if you are , you might not know someone who is unexplainably infertile..

just remembered another one I know without kids, and without reasons. .

at any rates my friend, I am sure we both intend the best for ourselves and those who are around us..and hope we can help them with the best that we can.
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #82 on: February 25, 2015, 04:49:30 PM »
Please stop digging, LionKing.
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #83 on: February 25, 2015, 04:50:05 PM »
AFAIK is like an anecdote.


Only if you make assumptions about what knowledge I may or may not have and how I came by it.


Lots of information on general healthcare and pregnancy planning:

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/planning-pregnancy.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Fertility/Pages/Protectyourfertility.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Infertility/Pages/Prevention.aspx

women, at least in our part of the world, don't often read things on the internet. it has to be in the clinic. so I ask again, is there a nutrition check up among the standard check ups done? there either is or isn't. there can be Dr.s perhaps more aware than others who might ask about these issues, but is it standardized?

i can only speak for my own part of the world, not yours.

Why don't you go to a clinic and ask?  I'm not actually responsible for educating you.

I am asking, just waiting for the answer, but I'm interested to know if in the States for example it is a standard practice.

I'm not in the United States.  I've never even been there.

I said the States for example which would include the other part of the world..indeed assumptions pile up but not proper readings ;)
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #84 on: February 25, 2015, 04:50:30 PM »
Please, stop digging LionKing.

digging what, Andromeda?
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #86 on: February 25, 2015, 04:53:20 PM »
AFAIK is like an anecdote.


Only if you make assumptions about what knowledge I may or may not have and how I came by it.


Lots of information on general healthcare and pregnancy planning:

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/planning-pregnancy.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Fertility/Pages/Protectyourfertility.aspx

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Infertility/Pages/Prevention.aspx

women, at least in our part of the world, don't often read things on the internet. it has to be in the clinic. so I ask again, is there a nutrition check up among the standard check ups done? there either is or isn't. there can be Dr.s perhaps more aware than others who might ask about these issues, but is it standardized?

i can only speak for my own part of the world, not yours.

Why don't you go to a clinic and ask?  I'm not actually responsible for educating you.

I am asking, just waiting for the answer, but I'm interested to know if in the States for example it is a standard practice.

I'm not in the United States.  I've never even been there.

I said the States for example which would include the other part of the world..indeed assumptions pile up but not proper readings ;)

You mentioned the States specifically when speaking to me specifically, so I don't think it was unreasonable for me to point out that I cannot tell you about the US medical system.
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Offline Jason Thompson

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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2015, 04:54:05 PM »
Lionking, you made an unjustified assumption or two about someone on this forum. Do you intend to retract it or apologise for it? Or not? And by that I mean an apology without justifications and further assumptions following on.

As to your absurd justification for your comment about the states, you're really not fooling anyone.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2015, 04:56:42 PM by Jason Thompson »
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2015, 04:56:11 PM »
Please, stop digging LionKing.

digging what, Andromeda?

A hole for yourself. You have made two assumptions. That Andromeda is a US Male. She's not. It is normally polite at the board to find out about the people first. I realised Andromeda's gender from reading a thread.
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Re: Unexplained infertiltiy
« Reply #89 on: February 25, 2015, 04:56:47 PM »
And the assumptions are piling up. So Andromeda is an American man? Well that's a shock for me, I can tell you....


I said in the states for example, assuming that Andromeda is in the other part of the world. being a man or a woman doesn't matter much. it is experiences that matter, but especially if she was a man it is more understandable  what she was saying.

I am talking like that with the intention to turn every rock because I have witnessed sufferings and would want to help people even with the slightest hope that can actually work. I think of such issues myself as: if I don't try I will surely loose, if I try there might be a chance to win.

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