Tindarormkimcha's thread

[frenat]

And I'm still waiting for your evidence to support the claim that the Moon rocks are fakes. When are you going to provide it?

So, you really are blind? I provided that some postings back, in which a moonrock was just petrofied wood.

The whole moon thing is nonsense to its teeth!

Unbelievable people swallow that nonsense, hook, line and...

did you ever show that it was ever claimed by NASA to be a Moon rock?  No?  That's because it wasn't.  It was ASSUMED to be a Moon rock when it was found in the late prime minister's estate.

[Tindarormkimcha]

And of course don't forget in all this enormous confusion these people are in here that the moon is really an artificial object! NOT a natural one!

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Come on, admit it lady, you haven't done your research now, have you?

[AtomicDog]

Giant light bulb, who makes this stuff up?

I think Jack White made that one up.

Jack White. The kindest thing you can say about him is that he knows as much about photography now as he did when he was alive.

[Tindarormkimcha]

And I'm still waiting for your evidence to support the claim that the Moon rocks are fakes. When are you going to provide it?

So, you really are blind? I provided that some postings back, in which a moonrock was just petrofied wood.

The whole moon thing is nonsense to its teeth!

Unbelievable people swallow that nonsense, hook, line and...

did you ever show that it was ever claimed by NASA to be a Moon rock?  No?  That's because it wasn't.  It was ASSUMED to be a Moon rock when it was found in the late prime minister's estate.

yeah!!!!!  a FAKE ONE for heaven's sake!


They seem to have no problem to lie and cheat and what have you.

[frenat]

And of course don't forget in all this enormous confusion these people are in here that the moon is really an artificial object! NOT a natural one!

Except you can't prove that.

[frenat]

And of course don't forget in all this enormous confusion these people are in here that the moon is really an artificial object! NOT a natural one!

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Come on, admit it lady, you haven't done your research now, have you?

the Moon has a moment of inertia of a solid body.

[onebigmonkey]

And I'm still waiting for your evidence to support the claim that the Moon rocks are fakes. When are you going to provide it?

So, you really are blind? I provided that some postings back, in which a moonrock was just petrofied wood.

The whole moon thing is nonsense to its teeth!

Unbelievable people swallow that nonsense, hook, line and...

You certainly have swallowed everything yourself.

Here's a statement for you to work on:

There is not one piece of evidence, not one, that proves that anyone at NASA gave the former Dutch PM a piece of fossilised wood. There is not one piece of evidence, not one, that anyone remotely connected with the Apollo 11 Goodwill tour gave any piece of fossilised wood to anyone. There is not one piece of evidence that anyone ever claimed that this fossil was from the moon. Not one.

There is plenty of evidence that the fossilised wood was a stunt by two artists for an exhibition. I own a copy of the exhibition programme.

Show me some proof that I'm wrong.

[frenat]

And I'm still waiting for your evidence to support the claim that the Moon rocks are fakes. When are you going to provide it?

So, you really are blind? I provided that some postings back, in which a moonrock was just petrofied wood.

The whole moon thing is nonsense to its teeth!

Unbelievable people swallow that nonsense, hook, line and...

did you ever show that it was ever claimed by NASA to be a Moon rock?  No?  That's because it wasn't.  It was ASSUMED to be a Moon rock when it was found in the late prime minister's estate.

yeah!!!!!  a FAKE ONE for heaven's sake!


They seem to have no problem to lie and cheat and what have you.

It was not given by NASA. 

[Tindarormkimcha]

Australian Viewers See Something
That Proves Apollo 11 Was A Fake

In western Australia during the live broadcast of the Apollo 11 moon landing, several people saw a very unusual occurrence. One viewer, Una Ronald watched the telecast and was astonished with what she saw.

The residents of Honeysuckle Creek, Australia, actually saw a different broadcast to the rest of the World. Just shortly before Armstrong stepped onto the Moons surface, a change could be seen where the picture goes from a stark black to a brighter picture. Honeysuckle Creek stayed with the picture and although the voice transmissions were broadcast from Goldstone, the actual film footage was broadcast from Australia. As Una watched Armstrong walking on the surface of the Moon she spotted a Coke bottle that was kicked in the right hand side of the picture. This was in the early hours of the morning and she phoned her friends to see if they had seen the same thing, unfortunately they had missed it but were going to watch the rebroadcast the next day. Needless to say, the footage had been edited and the offending Coke bottle had been cut out of the film. But several other viewers had seen the bottle and many articles appeared in The West Australian newspaper.

Western Australia received their coverage in a different way to the rest of the World. They were the only Country where there wasn't a delay to the 'live' transmission.  Bill Kaysing says 'NASA and other connected agencies couldn't get to the Moon and back and so went to ARPA (Advanced Research Projects Agency) in Massachusetts and asked them how they could simulate the actual landing and space walks. We have to remember that all communications with Apollo were run and monitored by NASA, and therefore journalists who thought they were hearing men on the Moon could have easily been misled. All NASA footage was actually filmed off TV screens at Houston Mission Control for the TV coverage... No one in the media were given the raw footage.'

Bill Wood is a highly qualified scientist and has degrees in mathematics, physics and chemistry, and a space rocket and propulsion engineer.  He has been granted high security clearance for a number of top secret projects and has worked with Macdonald Douglas and engineers who worked on the Saturn 5 rocket (the Apollo launch vehicle). He worked at Goldstone as a Communications Engineer during the Apollo missions. Goldstone in California, USA, were responsible for receiving and distributing the pictures sent from the Apollo to Houston. He says early video machines were used to record the NASA footage here on Earth by the TV networks. They received the FM carrier signal on Earth, ran it through an FM demodulator and processed it in an RCA scan converter that took the slow scan signal and converted it to the US standard black and white TV signal. The film was then sent onto Houston. When they were converting from slow scan to fast scan, RCA used disc and scan recorders as a memory and it played back the same video several times until it got an updated picture. In other words the signal was recorded onto video one then converted to video two.  Movie film runs at 30 frames per second, whereas video film runs at 60 frames per second. So in other words the footage that most people saw that they thought was 'live' wasn't, and was actually 50% slower than the original footage!!!

[bknight]

And of course don't forget in all this enormous confusion these people are in here that the moon is really an artificial object! NOT a natural one!

Except you can't prove that.

Oh man, he didn't get the memo for Moscow.

[AtomicDog]

Why would NASA try to pass off a piece of petrified wood as a rock instead of, you know, a rock as a rock?

[onebigmonkey]

Australian Viewers See Something
That Proves Apollo 11 Was A Fake

In western Australia during the live broadcast of the Apollo 11 moon landing, several people saw a very unusual occurrence. One viewer, Una Ronald watched the telecast and was astonished with what she saw.

The residents of Honeysuckle Creek, Australia, actually saw a different broadcast to the rest of the World. Just shortly before Armstrong stepped onto the Moons surface, a change could be seen where the picture goes from a stark black to a brighter picture. Honeysuckle Creek stayed with the picture and although the voice transmissions were broadcast from Goldstone, the actual film footage was broadcast from Australia. As Una watched Armstrong walking on the surface of the Moon she spotted a Coke bottle that was kicked in the right hand side of the picture. This was in the early hours of the morning and she phoned her friends to see if they had seen the same thing, unfortunately they had missed it but were going to watch the rebroadcast the next day. Needless to say, the footage had been edited and the offending Coke bottle had been cut out of the film. But several other viewers had seen the bottle and many articles appeared in The West Australian newspaper.

Western Australia received their coverage in a different way to the rest of the World. They were the only Country where there wasn't a delay to the 'live' transmission.  Bill Kaysing says 'NASA and other connected agencies couldn't get to the Moon and back and so went to ARPA (Advanced Research Projects Agency) in Massachusetts and asked them how they could simulate the actual landing and space walks. We have to remember that all communications with Apollo were run and monitored by NASA, and therefore journalists who thought they were hearing men on the Moon could have easily been misled. All NASA footage was actually filmed off TV screens at Houston Mission Control for the TV coverage... No one in the media were given the raw footage.'

Bill Wood is a highly qualified scientist and has degrees in mathematics, physics and chemistry, and a space rocket and propulsion engineer.  He has been granted high security clearance for a number of top secret projects and has worked with Macdonald Douglas and engineers who worked on the Saturn 5 rocket (the Apollo launch vehicle). He worked at Goldstone as a Communications Engineer during the Apollo missions. Goldstone in California, USA, were responsible for receiving and distributing the pictures sent from the Apollo to Houston. He says early video machines were used to record the NASA footage here on Earth by the TV networks. They received the FM carrier signal on Earth, ran it through an FM demodulator and processed it in an RCA scan converter that took the slow scan signal and converted it to the US standard black and white TV signal. The film was then sent onto Houston. When they were converting from slow scan to fast scan, RCA used disc and scan recorders as a memory and it played back the same video several times until it got an updated picture. In other words the signal was recorded onto video one then converted to video two.  Movie film runs at 30 frames per second, whereas video film runs at 60 frames per second. So in other words the footage that most people saw that they thought was 'live' wasn't, and was actually 50% slower than the original footage!!!

Seriously, do you actually believe the BS you're posting? The Aulis website must be like a church for you. Do you worship there a lot?

Do you think God gave you those brains to just swill garbage around in them like this?

[JayUtah]

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Ignorance of optics masquerading as expertise.  The disc in the image is not the sun; it is a lens artifact that has saturated the film.  Contrary to the author's claims, people take pictures of the sun directly all the time without having the whole frame exposed.

Ignorance of computer image processing masquerading as expertise.  Simply fiddling with Photoshop sliders does not prove the identification of something.

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Provides no evidence; simply offers an insinuation without proof.

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Promotes a cherry-picked still frame from a film as the only evidence of the crew's disposition.  Begs the question of what the crew's disposition should be from moment to moment.

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Covered in depth at Clavius.org.  Does not consider any legitimate reasons why the tracks might be obliterated.  Proposes an absurd explanation: lowering a wheeled prop into place.

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Affirmed consequent.  The method insinuated is used because it effectively simulates real life.  It cannot be used to determine whether something is in fact real life.

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Misidentifies several materials and techniques in the LM's construct.  Begs the question what a spacecraft should look like.  You have no qualifications in space engineering, so explain why everyone who does accepts this as a valid spacecraft.

[Tindarormkimcha]

Some of the Eleven Apollo astronauts had non space related fatal accidents within a twenty two month period of one another, the odds of this happening are 1 in 10,000...coincidence?

James B. Irwin (Apollo 15) resigned from NASA and the Air Force on July 1, 1972.

Don F. Eisele (Apollo 7) resigned from NASA and from the Air Force in June 1972.

Stewart Allen Roosa (Apollo 14) resigned from NASA and retired from the Air Force in February 1976.

Swigert resigned from NASA in 1977

Why did they all resign from the 'successful' Apollo Program?

[JayUtah]

Australian Viewers See Something

http://www.clavius.org/bibcoke.html