Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.

[Luke Pemberton]

What do you mean, "Go to the library and thumb through index cards to find several references?"

Then after finding a few references of importance, going back to the library and digging out the cited work from the original references, and trawling your way through these - probably to find a few nuggets worth using. My thesis cited in excess of 300 papers, and I probably researched 5 times this number to find the supporting information I needed. Not to mention the books I had to read.

[Neil Baker]

I'm still looking for the evidence that NASA tested a spacesuit with sublimator in a vacuum chamber.

Anybody?

The good news is that we're all a simple NASA demonstration away from the long coveted TRUTH! And yet, strangely, you all want to evade the Scientific Method and rely on questionable evidence.

[Jason Thompson]

Don't tell a bunch of scientists what the scientific method is. It doesn't involve staging random demonstrations at the whim of a layman who can't even manage basic research, for starters.

[JayUtah]

I'm still looking for the evidence that NASA tested a spacesuit with sublimator in a vacuum chamber.

Anybody?

The good news is that we're all a simple NASA demonstration away from the long coveted TRUTH! And yet, strangely, you all want to evade the Scientific Method and rely on questionable evidence.

Repeating your claims anew does not unwind the previous 15 pages of discussion.

[mako88sb]

I'm still looking for the evidence that NASA tested a spacesuit with sublimator in a vacuum chamber.

Anybody?

The good news is that we're all a simple NASA demonstration away from the long coveted TRUTH! And yet, strangely, you all want to evade the Scientific Method and rely on questionable evidence.

You will never be allowed near a NASA vacuum test facility because of your criminal actions. How much more do you want to ruin your life for something that's never going to happen?

[Abaddon]

A rubber duck is better at searching the internet than you. You couldn't even find a reference that has been in the very same place on the internet since 1997, for pete's sake. To which one might add your bizarre expectation that ALL data must be on the internet else it does not exist. Whence you derive such a notion is anyone's guess, but derive it you have. This begs the question: How do you suppose any research occurred before the internet?

What do you mean, "Go to the library and thumb through index cards to find several references?"

Heaven forefend! Surely not a Dewey Decimal System? Surely you cannot expect one to interact with treeware? Surely you cannot expect one to open an actual "book"? (Do such things still exist? Did they ever exist?)

Admit it. The entire universe did not exist before there was an internet and therefore, anything which does not exist on the intertubes or webernets does not really exist at all.

Or so the various Crank McBullplops would have you believe.

[Abaddon]

I'm still looking for the evidence that NASA tested a spacesuit with sublimator in a vacuum chamber.

Anybody?

Why yes! Quite a few have handed you exactly that. What is your problem? You got pictures, videos, technical documentation and so forth. Why are you pretending that you did not when it is plain in this very thread that you bloody well did?

The good news is that we're all a simple NASA demonstration away from the long coveted TRUTH! And yet, strangely, you all want to evade the Scientific Method and rely on questionable evidence.

No. The good news is that it has been dne countless times already. The further good news is that this has been presented to you and all and sundry in this very thread.

Here is the bad news. Despite the data being presented to you, you pretend it has not. This leaves you without a leg to stand on, as even the most Luddite of thinkers can see that ALL of your bovine questions have been copiously answered.

[Bob B.]

I'm still looking for the evidence that NASA tested a spacesuit with sublimator in a vacuum chamber.

Why are published accounts of the tests and photos of the tests not evidence?

[mako88sb]

I'm still looking for the evidence that NASA tested a spacesuit with sublimator in a vacuum chamber.

Anybody?

The good news is that we're all a simple NASA demonstration away from the long coveted TRUTH! And yet, strangely, you all want to evade the Scientific Method and rely on questionable evidence.

You will never be allowed near a NASA vacuum test facility because of your criminal actions. How much more do you want to ruin your life for something that's never going to happen?

I guess the next inevitable question Neil is what part of your brain keeps you from comprehending and accepting that it's never going to happen?

[Neil Baker]

However, I sure would like to hear from Neil why he felt a bomb threat seemed like a reasonable course of action to him.

No bomb threat.
Trumped up charge.
Ten days in jail.
Twelve days in a mental hospital.
Evaluated by three psychs, no mental illness, no personality disorders, no required meds, I doubt most could pass the test.
Discovery revealed two additional quiet charges, "threat to incite strike" and "threat to accuse of a crime." No threats, I did incite and I did accuse, both legal.
Theft (seizure) of my rifle.

Bogus charges dismissed a day before scheduled trial.
Lots of stories about my arrest, few if any about dismissal.

I'm on 3 years probation now after 4 months jail for felony vandalism for breaking a window demanding an Independent 9-11 Investigation.
I signed a gag order as part of my probation agreement the violation of which would probably result in 4 years prison.
This is all I want to say on the subject except don't believe everything you read on the Internet.
Thank you.

[Luke Pemberton]

I'm still looking for the evidence that NASA tested a spacesuit with sublimator in a vacuum chamber.

Here's a video showing the test facilities and how it almost went wrong.

Now please explain to us all why you think a sublimator does not work in a vacuum.

[Abaddon]

I'm still looking for the evidence that NASA tested a spacesuit with sublimator in a vacuum chamber.

Why are published accounts of the tests and photos of the tests not evidence?

Because he is a "special" snowflake, and a custom demo must be arranged for him and him alone according to whatever impossible criteria he may choose to attempt to impose.

[Neil Baker]

Don't tell a bunch of scientists what the scientific method is. It doesn't involve staging random demonstrations at the whim of a layman who can't even manage basic research, for starters.

Cheap shot and a cop out. The best thing NASA could do is allow the validation of its claim.

[JayUtah]

I'm on 3 years probation now after 4 months jail for felony vandalism for breaking a window demanding an Independent 9-11 Investigation.

Why do you think this would not disqualify you from visiting a secure NASA facility?

This is all I want to say on the subject except don't believe everything you read on the Internet.

Your arguments regarding the porous plate sublimator presume the Internet to be a reliable reflection of the general state of information, including even by the absence of something on it.  Please reconcile this.

[JayUtah]

Cheap shot and a cop out.

No, the world is not required to accept your personal opinion of what scientific methodology consists of.  You may not beg the question that your demands are objectively reasonable.

The best thing NASA could do is allow the validation of its claim.

Your personal standard of validation is irrelevant.  Not only is there already evidence of the test you say was not recorded, but the technical claims regarding the operation of porous plate sublimators have already been validated to everyone's satisfaction but yours.  You may not beg the question that your standard of proof is the only reasonable one.