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Offline bknight

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #60 on: September 02, 2015, 07:31:54 AM »
Personally, I'd rather be told when I'm wrong than agreed to just to make me happy.  If you could have prevented me from making a mistake and didn't, how is that better?  (Actually a woman.)
Speaking from my personal experience, my wife is never wrong, even when she is.  She will quickly change the subject that she is right.  Later she will bake a cake, pie or cookies as an admit that she was wrong. :)
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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #61 on: September 02, 2015, 08:12:57 AM »
Personally, I'd rather be told when I'm wrong than agreed to just to make me happy.  If you could have prevented me from making a mistake and didn't, how is that better?  (Actually a woman.)
Speaking from my personal experience, my wife is never wrong, even when she is.  She will quickly change the subject that she is right.  Later she will bake a cake, pie or cookies as an admit that she was wrong. :)

Well as far as my wife and I are concerned, I do not keep track of all the things I do wrong. I don't see the point of both of us keeping track.
If you're not a scientist but you think you've destroyed the foundation of a vast scientific edifice with 10 minutes of Googling, you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong.

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #62 on: September 02, 2015, 08:20:02 AM »

Well as far as my wife and I are concerned, I do not keep track of all the things I do wrong. I don't see the point of both of us keeping track.
I didn't, as you might have notice, relate to my errors.
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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #63 on: September 02, 2015, 09:09:16 AM »

I learned many, many years ago that the three best words a man can say to his spouse are not "I love you" but rather, "You're right, dear!"

Except when she says "Do I look fat in this?

(Married to Mrs Dalhouise for 33 years and counting)

My stock response to that is, "does it make me look stupid?"
You don't "believe" that the lunar landings happened. You either understand the science or you don't.

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #64 on: September 02, 2015, 09:11:23 AM »
Personally, I'd rather be told when I'm wrong than agreed to just to make me happy.  If you could have prevented me from making a mistake and didn't, how is that better?  (Actually a woman.)

There are always special cases.

However, I have learned through experience that she is almost always more right than she is wrong. I personally think she's smarter than I am. 
You don't "believe" that the lunar landings happened. You either understand the science or you don't.

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #65 on: September 02, 2015, 09:12:36 AM »
Personally, I'd rather be told when I'm wrong than agreed to just to make me happy.  If you could have prevented me from making a mistake and didn't, how is that better?  (Actually a woman.)
Speaking from my personal experience, my wife is never wrong, even when she is.  She will quickly change the subject that she is right.  Later she will bake a cake, pie or cookies as an admit that she was wrong. :)

Well as far as my wife and I are concerned, I do not keep track of all the things I do wrong. I don't see the point of both of us keeping track.

We've discovered after lo, these many years, that humour is the one of the more important things to cultivate.
You don't "believe" that the lunar landings happened. You either understand the science or you don't.

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #66 on: September 02, 2015, 09:28:32 AM »
Personally, I'd rather be told when I'm wrong than agreed to just to make me happy.  If you could have prevented me from making a mistake and didn't, how is that better?  (Actually a woman.)
Speaking from my personal experience, my wife is never wrong, even when she is.  She will quickly change the subject that she is right.  Later she will bake a cake, pie or cookies as an admit that she was wrong. :)

So, everyone wins?

I share accommodations with a cat, and cats are definitely never wrong, even when the statement is "It's 3 am, and time to play!"

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #67 on: September 02, 2015, 09:32:15 AM »

So, everyone wins?

I share accommodations with a cat, and cats are definitely never wrong, even when the statement is "It's 3 am, and time to play!"
Checking whether the de-clawing is still in effect! :)
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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #68 on: September 02, 2015, 12:17:57 PM »
Personally, I'd rather be told when I'm wrong than agreed to just to make me happy.  If you could have prevented me from making a mistake and didn't, how is that better?  (Actually a woman.)

There are always special cases.

However, I have learned through experience that she is almost always more right than she is wrong. I personally think she's smarter than I am. 

Up until recently, I was just better educated than my boyfriend.  (He got his BA in December.)  As it is, I'm more likely to read nonfiction for pleasure.  I have a wider array of information to draw on.  However, there are some subjects where he's more likely to be right, and I tend to defer to him on those.  I know people better than he does, by a lot, but he knows small engine repair better than I do!
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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #69 on: September 02, 2015, 06:52:26 PM »
Everyone is ignorant on something. Worse, everyone is ignorant on something they think they aren't. Avoiding Dunning-Kruger syndrome in one domain does not confer perfect protection against finding it in some other domain.

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #70 on: September 02, 2015, 07:20:53 PM »
Everyone is ignorant on something. Worse, everyone is ignorant on something they think they aren't. Avoiding Dunning-Kruger syndrome in one domain does not confer perfect protection against finding it in some other domain.

"In scholarship, a man can only be a master in one particular field, namely as a specialist, and in some field he should be a specialist. But if he is not to forfeit his capacity for taking a general view, or even his respect for general views, he should be an amateur at as many points as possible, privately at any rate, for the increase of his own knowledge and the enrichment of his possible standpoints. Otherwise he will remain ignorant in any field lying outside his own specialty, and perhaps, as a man, a barbarian."

- Jacob Burckhardt, Reflections on History (1868)
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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #71 on: September 02, 2015, 07:50:22 PM »
Or, as Heinlein put it, "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #72 on: September 02, 2015, 08:05:38 PM »
Hunchbacked seem to be prolific a few years ago, but seems like he ran out of ideas.
He did. Now he's just recycling his old ones. Sort of a "greatest hits" collection.

I knew the guy was really off the deep end when he claimed that Aldrin's demonstration of eating in zero gravity was filmed underwater. He breathed through his headset.

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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #73 on: September 02, 2015, 08:20:55 PM »
Hunchbacked seem to be prolific a few years ago, but seems like he ran out of ideas.
He did. Now he's just recycling his old ones. Sort of a "greatest hits" collection.

I knew the guy was really off the deep end when he claimed that Aldrin's demonstration of eating in zero gravity was filmed underwater. He breathed through his headset.
How does he expect to have anyone take his claims seriously.  That is one of the most bizarre claims yet.
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Re: HBs, CTs, Deniers, Alien Apologists...
« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2015, 11:08:32 PM »
Or, as Heinlein put it, "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

Surely that must be one of the silliest things Heinlein ever said.