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Offline Dr_Orpheus

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2015, 01:25:27 PM »
Heiwa quietly corrected some mistakes on his site that were pointed out on this forum, but it doesn't qualify as proving that he made an error if he does it on the sly.
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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2015, 01:27:31 PM »
Poor Heiwa.  Such absolute incompetence* in the service of such a large ego, served up with such laughable whoppers as even having such "prize" money in the first place.

*For example, his utter inability to grasp conservation of kinetic energy, even when people repeatedly and patiently walked him through the problem and a number of helper examples.  This is literally grade-school stuff, but this self-touted master engineer simply Could. Not. Get. It.

What's even funnier is he eventually wandered into some Internet forum of such concentrated stupidity that he actually wound up as the (relative) voice of reason and, IIRC, was banned for the crime of acknowledging some part of reality.

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2015, 01:46:18 PM »
Poor Heiwa.  Such absolute incompetence* in the service of such a large ego, served up with such laughable whoppers as even having such "prize" money in the first place.

*For example, his utter inability to grasp conservation of kinetic energy, even when people repeatedly and patiently walked him through the problem and a number of helper examples.  This is literally grade-school stuff, but this self-touted master engineer simply Could. Not. Get. It.

What's even funnier is he eventually wandered into some Internet forum of such concentrated stupidity that he actually wound up as the (relative) voice of reason and, IIRC, was banned for the crime of acknowledging some part of reality.
He was the voice of reason????  What forum could that have been?
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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2015, 01:55:01 PM »
He has a very nice set of castors on the goal posts.
Nah, beavers would just chew up the poles.  Now, casters could be used to make moving them easier...

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2015, 03:13:42 PM »
I doubt it could be added up - so many people have met the conditions of the challenge here and in numerous other places across the web.

That's what I thought, but I also thought someone might have an idea just how many times, or at least an educated guess.

Phil
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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2015, 03:14:23 PM »
I won it at least twice.

Yes, you did, I remember that. Thanks for your reply.

Phil
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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2015, 03:38:52 PM »
Poor Heiwa.  Such absolute incompetence* in the service of such a large ego, served up with such laughable whoppers as even having such "prize" money in the first place.

*For example, his utter inability to grasp conservation of kinetic energy, even when people repeatedly and patiently walked him through the problem and a number of helper examples.  This is literally grade-school stuff, but this self-touted master engineer simply Could. Not. Get. It.

What's even funnier is he eventually wandered into some Internet forum of such concentrated stupidity that he actually wound up as the (relative) voice of reason and, IIRC, was banned for the crime of acknowledging some part of reality.
He was the voice of reason????  What forum could that have been?
I believe that was the cluesforum.
http://www.cluesforum.info/
 He is now active at The Flat Earth Society
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=20.0
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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2015, 04:02:05 PM »
Poor Heiwa.  Such absolute incompetence* in the service of such a large ego, served up with such laughable whoppers as even having such "prize" money in the first place.

*For example, his utter inability to grasp conservation of kinetic energy, even when people repeatedly and patiently walked him through the problem and a number of helper examples.  This is literally grade-school stuff, but this self-touted master engineer simply Could. Not. Get. It.

What's even funnier is he eventually wandered into some Internet forum of such concentrated stupidity that he actually wound up as the (relative) voice of reason and, IIRC, was banned for the crime of acknowledging some part of reality.
He was the voice of reason????  What forum could that have been?
I believe that was the cluesforum.
http://www.cluesforum.info/
 He is now active at The Flat Earth Society
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=20.0
He gets everywhere in his super tanker on a flat earth??  Delusional.
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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2015, 09:52:44 PM »
He has a very nice set of castors on the goal posts.
Nah, beavers would just chew up the poles.  Now, casters could be used to make moving them easier...

Fred

Castor and Pole-ox? ;)

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2015, 10:12:45 PM »
He has a very nice set of castors on the goal posts.
Nah, beavers would just chew up the poles.  Now, casters could be used to make moving them easier...

Both spellings are acceptable.
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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2015, 10:38:51 PM »
Whew, 113 pages of denial and without admission of fault.  I was impressed by ka9q conservation of energy #108 formulas, Bob B. formulas #487, the chemistry discussion #525, sts60 synopsis #965.  And I thought Mr Baker, tindorman tarkus are/were have acceptance issues.
I do have one question most of the posters are still in the thread, except daggerstab, what ever happened to him/her?
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Offline Dr_Orpheus

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2015, 09:40:38 AM »
He also posted on the Cosmoquest forum.   One page 6 someone worked out the Apollo 11 fuel consumption for lunar orbit insertion using the energy balances Heiwa is so fond of.  He predictably ignored it.

http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthread.php?141335-Heiwa-s-thread
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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2015, 09:41:38 AM »
Sorry, double post.

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2015, 03:45:35 PM »
He has a very nice set of castors on the goal posts.
Nah, beavers would just chew up the poles.  Now, casters could be used to make moving them easier...

Both spellings are acceptable.

Threw me for a minute.

I can now put my plan for world domination back on track.

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Re: Heiwa's "challenge"
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2015, 05:12:45 PM »
Just out of curiosity, what was this challenge?
Here's a monster thread about it: http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

I read all 1,681 posts, and one thing strikes me.

I'm surprised that no one here has a flesh-eating lawyer friend, who could have filed a lawsuit against Björkman for fraud, failure to pay, or any one of a few more civil charges.

It seems to me, that if the conditions of the challenge were met (and it can be shown that they were) and that the challenger read those posts (and it can) and that he responded to other posts after those (and he did) with the intent to change the conditions of the challenge) then a legitimate legal case could be made that Björkman would have to pay up, because the original challenge, and the revised challenges were satisfied, and that intentional evasion to avoid payment was undertaken by Björkman. It was noted more than once in the thread that he had committed fraud by doing so, and it makes me wonder why no one at least indicated that they were going to be filing such a suit. It would have been interesting to watch Björkman squirm, knowing that he would have to acknowledge his ignoring the responses, in a courtroom.

Of course, I understand that nobody really would have done this, because it simply wouldn't be worth the effort, but at the very least, a realistic threat of litigation might have forced him to acknowledge the correct responses in some way. Wishful thinking on my part, I suppose, but if I had been around then, I likely would have threatened such litigation. I know a couple of flesh-eating lawyers...
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