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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Apollo 11 photography debrief
« Last post by smartcooky on February 12, 2025, 02:29:39 PM »
Saw the cover page of the first link and I swear I have this one, need to check once off work.

Still, there's actually a response to a HB complaint from Apollo 11; IIRC, there's 'issues' with the photos of the plaque on the leg because one photo is too dark but the next one is well lit. The argument being 'how could Armstrong know to change the settings if they didn't develop the film until after they got back? How did he know it was too dark?', yet right at the beginning of the debrief we have Armstrong saying how if they thought the picture would be important, they took multiple with different settings.

As usual, it seems like all the answers are out there if people are willing to look.

Even a rank amateur photographer can tell you what "bracketing" means

https://digital-photography-school.com/bracketing-what-is-it-and-what-to-do-with-the-images/

      "Bracketing is a camera technique where you capture several different exposures of the same scene. In other words, you capture a standard image, a darker/underexposed version and a brighter/overexposed version."
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Other Conspiracy Theories / Re: HBO Miniseries From the Earth to the Moon
« Last post by JayUtah on February 12, 2025, 01:04:25 PM »
I really love this series. I watch it every few years. The producers of the documentary where we recreated some of the Moon lighting effects in the California desert managed to find some of the same grips who had worked on this show and hired them. I wish I had had more time to talk with them about their time on the series.
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General Discussion / Re: The Artemis Program
« Last post by JayUtah on February 12, 2025, 12:21:29 PM »
I think it's more likely that Pres. Trump will just defer to Elon Musk on anything having to do with space policy. This means anything that survives from the Artemis program will be bent to Musk's oversight and reflect his personal priorities. I gather Musk wants access to U.S. tax dollars to fund his business enterprise, which he currently has under contracts administered by NASA that reflect NASA's goals. I gather he wants to remove policy and oversight from that equation and just have the dollars to fund SpaceX.

Musk via DOGE will effectively control NASA. Musk has said he doesn't want to go to the Moon. Therefore it's possible Artemis will be redirected toward a Mars-first goal. As long as Musk continues to make Trump look good, Trump will go for it.

This is all conflated with the problems with Boeing, which has truly lost its way.
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General Discussion / Re: The Artemis Program
« Last post by jfb on February 12, 2025, 09:59:38 AM »
And now I'm reading reports that Boeing has warned staff at a meeting last Friday that Artemis may be cancelled.

Phrases like "sunk cost" and "about time" are sort of floating around in my head.
This makes no sense to me for if everyone remembers Trump wanted to have NASS accelerate Artemis in his first term to get boots on the ground or at least Moon manned orbital operations.  Now more than likely this was an objective to put a feather in Trumps' cap.  So to have discussions that Artemis would be cancelled doesn't fit.  Perhaps a re-tooling of the mission might be in order were SpaceX would play a different/larger part would make more sense.

Rational person reasoning doesn't apply anymore.  We're in full clown-shoes brigade mode.

Trump says whatever he needs to in the moment to get what he wants at that moment.  He has no long term plan beyond advancing his personal interests.  He doesn't care about the Artemis program beyond how it makes him look right now.  If it makes him look good right now, keep it funded.  If it doesn't make him look good right now, cancel it. 

That's all the reasoning you need. 
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General Discussion / Re: The Artemis Program
« Last post by Peter B on February 12, 2025, 07:27:09 AM »
And now I'm reading reports that Boeing has warned staff at a meeting last Friday that Artemis may be cancelled.

Phrases like "sunk cost" and "about time" are sort of floating around in my head.
This makes no sense to me for if everyone remembers Trump wanted to have NASS accelerate Artemis in his first term to get boots on the ground or at least Moon manned orbital operations.  Now more than likely this was an objective to put a feather in Trumps' cap.  So to have discussions that Artemis would be cancelled doesn't fit.  Perhaps a re-tooling of the mission might be in order were SpaceX would play a different/larger part would make more sense.

Heh, you're applying "logic" here. Who knows whether Trump even remembers his NASA plans from his first term. And even if he does, there's now a distinct aroma of Musk in the Oval Office...
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Apollo 11 photography debrief
« Last post by TimberWolfAu on February 11, 2025, 06:13:17 PM »
Saw the cover page of the first link and I swear I have this one, need to check once off work.

Still, there's actually a response to a HB complaint from Apollo 11; IIRC, there's 'issues' with the photos of the plaque on the leg because one photo is too dark but the next one is well lit. The argument being 'how could Armstrong know to change the settings if they didn't develop the film until after they got back? How did he know it was too dark?', yet right at the beginning of the debrief we have Armstrong saying how if they thought the picture would be important, they took multiple with different settings.

As usual, it seems like all the answers are out there if people are willing to look.
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General Discussion / Re: The Artemis Program
« Last post by bknight on February 11, 2025, 01:46:28 PM »
And now I'm reading reports that Boeing has warned staff at a meeting last Friday that Artemis may be cancelled.

Phrases like "sunk cost" and "about time" are sort of floating around in my head.
This makes no sense to me for if everyone remembers Trump wanted to have NASS accelerate Artemis in his first term to get boots on the ground or at least Moon manned orbital operations.  Now more than likely this was an objective to put a feather in Trumps' cap.  So to have discussions that Artemis would be cancelled doesn't fit.  Perhaps a re-tooling of the mission might be in order were SpaceX would play a different/larger part would make more sense.
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The Reality of Apollo / Apollo 11 photography debrief
« Last post by onebigmonkey on February 11, 2025, 06:31:47 AM »
Was searching for other things and came across a document I'd not seen before:

https://repository.hou.usra.edu/items/3d7cdcb1-602b-4233-bedb-c91596c83475

It's a transcript of a debrief of photography (and other EVA matters) held a week after the much more wide ranging technical debrief. It has some interesting comments on ease of mobility, surface conditions, using the camera.

There's a similar one for Apollo 16:

https://repository.hou.usra.edu/items/7c0df2e3-1f29-4e9e-a885-2a5a4e5955b5

All sorts of obscure docs on there  :)
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Book Review/New Book!!
« Last post by TimberWolfAu on February 11, 2025, 02:21:23 AM »
I like scrolling through some of the old threads, when they remind me of something I meant to search out. On that note;

New book!!

"The Moon as Viewed by Lunar Orbiter'

Has a nice section at the beginning about the equipment used too.

Which reminds me, what was it with NASA and green books? So many books from that time period seem to have green covering.
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Other Conspiracy Theories / Re: HBO Miniseries From the Earth to the Moon
« Last post by Dalhousie on February 10, 2025, 03:29:04 AM »
I searched for and didn't find any post newer than about 4 years, so I thought I would start a new thread.
I watched for the first time the first few episodes of this miniseries. 

I first watched it in 2002, and probably rewatched every year or two since.  It's amazing.
Yes it presents a more personalized viewpoint of the program.  I enjoyed it also and will most likely view it again in the future.

Keep us posted!
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