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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...
« Last post by onebigmonkey on Today at 03:48:36 AM »
The detectives are trying to backtrack from their claim, maybe they've seen my comment above, stating that they're just quoting a document produced in 2002, and that document doesn't identify where the flag is, and doesn't mention flag crater. They're just 'pointing out inconsistencies'

That's a lie, and I'm just pointing it out.

The document they fail to identify is this one:

https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/1048/report.pdf

Page 28. It is absolutely the one they quote. The annotated map I identified as being from the PSR in my previous post also appears in there (page 23). Both of them are clearly labelled as to what they show. Labels they chose not to show in their video.

It may have been scanned in 2002, but it was published in1981. I have an original hard copy. Far from not being mentioned at all, the specific term 'flag crater' is mentioned 22 times.

It's also worth mentioning that 'flag crater' is mentioned in the pre-mission press kit.

Try harder.

(amended for typos and additional info).
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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...
« Last post by bknight on January 17, 2026, 04:26:03 PM »
Marcus was nothing but a grifter.  I for one will not miss him but wish him to RIP in a place where he cannot tell lies abot Apollo.
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General Discussion / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by LunarOrbit 🇨🇦 on January 17, 2026, 11:38:25 AM »
Trump is using ICE terrorise people in blue states like Minnesota to the point that they protest. He will use their protests to justify implementing the Insurrection Act, which he will try to use it to cancel the mid-term election.

These fascists think they are clever, but they are easier to read than a child's book.
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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...
« Last post by onebigmonkey on January 17, 2026, 06:34:13 AM »
I'm sure his family will be upset, but his final words on the AD channel don't flatter his legacy.

In thier latest video he merely acts as a nodding dog to Scott Henderson's latest example of utter, utter stupidity.

Henderson is flabbergasted that teh Apollo 16 jump salute photos show it next to the LM< but a mission document idenfies 'flag' a whole 1.5 km away.

Flag crater, not the flag, you cretin.

They go on to query how an earth they could possibly know about these small craters when lunar orbiter couldn't have seen them? They show a lunar orbiter photo but don't identify its origin, and are mystified as to how it could image craters 1 foot across when it didn't have that resolution.

Good question chaps, how did they know those small craters were there prior to the mission?

The map they use is this, only with the station names superimposed, which implies a post-mission map.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19730013002/downloads/19730013002.pdf

The mapping there as done not by Lunar Orbiter, but by stereoscopic photographs taken by Apollo 14. It says so quite clearly on the map, page 85. None of the craters on that map are 1 foot in diameter. Other more detailed maps of the later landing sites used Panoramic and Metric Mapping camera images to fill in the details. Lunar Orbiter didn't have the resolving power for the finer details in Apollo photos, and yet there they are. So close fellas, so close.

They also show cuff checklists which they seem to think identify specific 18" wide rocks and their mineral compositions, when they do not - they show general purpose tips on how to get samples from rocks.

If he's fortunate enough to have gone on to a better place, he will meet several of the astronauts he's lied about and profited from. He'll have some explaining to do.

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General Discussion / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by Obviousman on January 17, 2026, 01:28:19 AM »
The US has become a fascist state - what do you expect? And it is only going to get worse with 50% of the country is cheering it along.

Stay safe my friend, and I look forward to seeing this all end.
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General Discussion / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by Ranb on January 17, 2026, 12:38:01 AM »
Kristi Noem says Americans should be ready to prove citizenship to ICE.

So now it can be illegal just to be in an area where there are suspected illegal aliens. ICE can and will detain you if they do not recognize the documents you carry.

Americans have never been required to carry identification to just be out and about while minding their own business. But now ICE can demand identification and proof of citizenship, from anyone, anywhere, and then detain you if they please.

This commie crap is not the liberty that Americans fought for.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CYrdrYYuI38
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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...
« Last post by TimberWolfAu on January 16, 2026, 06:14:05 AM »
Quote from: MartinC on January 16, 2026, 05:23:38 AM
Just a head up, given the title of this thread, that Marcus Allen has passed away as reported by the ADs on their yt channel.

Our time has to end eventually, some of us get good long runs, others are sadly too short.

Condolences to the family and friends.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Canberra Road Trip
« Last post by TimberWolfAu on January 16, 2026, 06:07:11 AM »
Sacred feth, that was a long day. Left home at 7am, back around 9pm, about 8 hours of driving total.

Learnt something new, got corrected on somethings too.

So one of the nice people at the Canberra Deep Space Comm site corrected me on the rock they have being from Apollo 11, not 16 as I always thought (I mean it even says that on the information plaque with the rock too). For fun, the sample, 10072,80, is the same one shown in the photo of the Apollo samples from the lunar collection overview sheets for 10072.

Learnt that the dish from Honeysuckle was actually reset up at the Tidbinbilla site, though it 'retired' in 2009, but it's still standing today. Got to make it to the former Honeysuckle site too, that's a winding drive up the mountain.

All up, a pretty neat place to visit.

Some shots for you all.
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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...
« Last post by MartinC on January 16, 2026, 05:23:38 AM »
Just a head up, given the title of this thread, that Marcus Allen has passed away as reported by the ADs on their yt channel.

As if to demonstrate the futility of posting on their channel, StrayDog took exception to a post which he claimed was speaking ill of Allen, overlooking of course the vitriol and damn right disgraceful comments posted when someone from the Apollo programme passes away.
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General Discussion / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by raven on January 16, 2026, 04:20:41 AM »
Even if Trump doesn't manage to shatter American democracy any more than he has, he's setting up the ground work for someone, red or blue to decide to take things even further.
Remember, the Roman Empire did not call itself that for centuries, keeping up a  fascia of being a republic.
Even with a concerted effort, this damage is gonna be the work of years to repair, assuming the US Supreme Court is cooperative.
Decades if they are not, and I doubt they will be.
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