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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Everyday Astronaut video about Apollo
« Last post by JayUtah on March 02, 2025, 01:02:52 PM »
After sleeping I reran the video and I have a question concerning Tim's calculations concerning the rocket equation.  In all of his calculations Tim used the Earth's gravitational constant of 9.8 m/sec^2.  I wonder if the Moon's gravitational constant should be used for the CSM/LM while entering/leaving Lunar orbit and the LM's landing/takeoff.  What's the verdict?

Short answer: no, you don't change g0 to be that for the Moon. This comes up all the time while teaching rocket science. A moment's thought reveals that specific impulse and exhaust velocity have nothing to do with the gravity of anything your rocket might be operating near. All that works in deep space too.

g0 appears in the rocket calculations to normalize the answer for differences in physical measurement units. "Specific" anything in science wants to be as dimensionless as possible. So something labeled "specific impulse" should be considered dimensionless even though it has units in seconds. To get there, you have to do undo all the physically-based measurements such as for mass, velocity, and force. Time in seconds is the only common thing in that relationship among all the measurement systems, so the physically-measured quantities are normalized to a "specific" quantity using something that exists as the same conceptual relationship in all systems. This is arbitrarily chosen to be Earth's gravity-based acceleration. It's a relationship that's defined in all systems and incorporates units of force, mass, time, and velocity—the quantities we care about when trying to measure rocket performance in terms of propellant behavior.

It's important to understand that this is arbitrary. It doesn't have anything to do with operating a rocket near Earth or anything to do with what the Earth's gravity is doing to the rocket. If you're working in SI, you undo the normalization for your units by using g0 in SI units. If working in EES, you undo the normalization for pounds-force, gallons, firkins, and cable-lengths by applying g0 in EES units to get exhaust velocity (for example) in feet per second instead of meters per second.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Everyday Astronaut video about Apollo
« Last post by bknight on March 02, 2025, 09:34:41 AM »
After sleeping I reran the video and I have a question concerning Tim's calculations concerning the rocket equation.  In all of his calculations Tim used the Earth's gravitational constant of 9.8 m/sec^2.  I wonder if the Moon's gravitational constant should be used for the CSM/LM while entering/leaving Lunar orbit and the LM's landing/takeoff.  What's the verdict?
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General Discussion / Re: Visiting Los Angeles
« Last post by LunarOrbit 🇨🇦 on March 02, 2025, 04:20:49 AM »
I might be wrong, but I think the Getty Museum is in one of the areas that were hit pretty hard by the wild fires. It's still there, but maybe closed to tourism.
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General Discussion / Visiting Los Angeles
« Last post by Peter B on March 02, 2025, 01:40:39 AM »
Hi everyone

Thanks to a couple of things coming together, it's possible I might be able to visit LA for a week or two in June this year with the family (17, 14 and 12).

We're likely to be fairly limited to LA and surrounds, so I wanted to check with the Brains Trust here on things worth visiting and things worth avoiding.

So far, things I've put on the "visit" list are:

- California Science Center
- La Brea Tar Pits
- Dodgers baseball game
- USS Iowa
- Griffith Observatory
- One of the movie studio places
- Getty Museum

I'd like to work out a way to include a Grand Canyon visit (I see there are 5 day train tours from LA), and my wife thinks the kids would love Disneyland.

Would anyone like to add to or subtract from the list?

Thank you very much!
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Everyday Astronaut video about Apollo
« Last post by bknight on March 01, 2025, 11:02:12 PM »
Cool video, nice presentation it is too bad that the ill-informed will still question the Apollo progra.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Everyday Astronaut video about Apollo
« Last post by smartcooky on March 01, 2025, 03:32:46 AM »
The EA channel on YT has just dropped a 2 hour 20 minute video going through a bunch of Apollo hoax claims.

The cool bit for me was that the last section of the video demonstrated, using the rocket equation, that the Saturn V had the capacity to make Apollo happen.

Definitely worth a watch in your spare time, I think.

This guy Tim Dodd is amazing. He used to be a professional photographer and a part time musician. The has taught himself rocket science - particularly, how rocket engines work.
Peter B beat me to the punch posting this.

I watched it yesterday. It is really well researched (although he needs to learn the difference between "fiducial" and "fiduciary" :) ), and the production values are right up there with the best. He has come a long way from the funny, nerdy guy in an orange Russian flight suit.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Everyday Astronaut video about Apollo
« Last post by LunarOrbit 🇨🇦 on March 01, 2025, 01:15:36 AM »
I've been waiting for the weekend to watch it. I figured it would be a good video.
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The Reality of Apollo / Everyday Astronaut video about Apollo
« Last post by Peter B on March 01, 2025, 01:06:08 AM »
The EA channel on YT has just dropped a 2 hour 20 minute video going through a bunch of Apollo hoax claims.

The cool bit for me was that the last section of the video demonstrated, using the rocket equation, that the Saturn V had the capacity to make Apollo happen.

Definitely worth a watch in your spare time, I think.
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Announcements / Re: Banned members
« Last post by Luke Pemberton on February 19, 2025, 10:53:09 AM »
I'm pretty sure Jason agrees with me, in that it was funny watching him realise he was trying to bluff the guy who actually wrote the book on Apollo TV technology. That was a classic moment, at least for me.

When he asked if you could provide a reference.  :-X
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General Discussion / Re: Kids say the darnedest things...
« Last post by Peter B on February 19, 2025, 02:45:18 AM »
Not really a KSTDT story, but still I thought worth sharing.

12YOD and I were out for a walk after dinner last night. We live close to the edge of the city, so it's only a 10 minute walk to reach a fire trail which tracks around the backs of the last houses.

We were walking along the fire trail when we came upon an echidna beside the trail. Kangaroos are ridiculously common around the urban fringe and even into the suburbs, but echidnas? I've only seen two in the wild previously, and neither of them up close. So 12YOD and I had the opportunity to watch it for about 10 minutes from only a couple of metres away, as it wandered around foraging for ants.

And yes, one good use for smart phones is the ability to record video of stuff like this (and I'd happily share mine for those of you interested, if only I knew how!).
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