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General Discussion / Re: Kids say the darnedest things...

« Last post by Peter B on September 20, 2025, 06:33:50 AM »

Not listening...and not Englishing either.

15YOS, going into his bedroom: I'm just going to close my blinds and curtains.

12YOD: What do you mean, you're going to close your kittens?

15YOS: Huh?

12YOD: What are you, a murden kitterer?

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Book Review/New Book!!

« Last post by Peter B on September 20, 2025, 06:29:57 AM »

Dave McKeegan has just released a video on YT with a bunch of photo pairs from Apollo, both as side-by-sides and as red-blue anaglyphs.

I found the SBS pairs fascinating to look at, so perhaps you might like to point your peepers at the RB anaglyphs.

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Book Review/New Book!!

« Last post by TimberWolfAu on September 19, 2025, 10:41:48 PM »

OMG!!!!

I was flicking through The Moon as Viewed by Lunar Orbiter last night and opened the back cover and found an envelope with a weird piece of carboard sticking out. I thought it would be funny if it was supposed to be 3D glasses and opened it............ it was!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's four anaglyphs of the lunar surface towards the back of the book I'd never noticed before and now I'm 12 years old again!

My biggest thanks to the previous owner, who kept the book, and glasses, in such good condition. I need to fix the glasses, the glue has failed after all this time.

It really is the simple things in life sometimes.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...

« Last post by onebigmonkey on September 19, 2025, 02:17:10 PM »

Forget just the suit, it seems where ever you look there are HB's going on about the temperature of objects changing from 250°F to -250°F and how could the equipment work. I never took any physics in school beyond the mandatory, basic science classes we had to have, but even I understood that it takes time for objects to gain/lose heat, it's not instantaneous (well, outside extreme situations anyway

Unless it's the CSM, obviously, which can't ever cool down ever 

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: SpaceCraft Fillms and the "Unedited" claim

« Last post by TimberWolfAu on September 19, 2025, 11:13:25 AM »

Thanks all, pretty much covered my thoughts here.

Incidentally, I went and found the same coms section in the Apollo 15 transcripts (APOLLO 15 VOICE TRANSCRIPT PERTAINING TO THE GEOLOGY OF THE LANDING SITE), and how strange, the timing in the transcript lines up with the timing that NASA, apparently, altered to increase the delay, rather than lining up with the SpaceCraft Films DVD. Who would have thunk it!?

Of course, since these are PDF's, the only possible explanation is that NASA also changed all the timings in the transcripts to keep the hoax going 

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...

« Last post by TimberWolfAu on September 19, 2025, 11:06:04 AM »

moving into the shade will be an instant temperature drop

Forget just the suit, it seems where ever you look there are HB's going on about the temperature of objects changing from 250°F to -250°F and how could the equipment work. I never took any physics in school beyond the mandatory, basic science classes we had to have, but even I understood that it takes time for objects to gain/lose heat, it's not instantaneous (well, outside extreme situations anyway).

and it's not nice for people to have rocket parts land on them.

Pffft, doesn't seem to worry CNSA.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...

« Last post by Peter B on September 19, 2025, 08:39:23 AM »

...Many polar orbiting satellites have launched from Florida, you idiots.

And the (crewed) Fram2 mission back in April this year...

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Watching the detectives...

« Last post by onebigmonkey on September 19, 2025, 03:05:29 AM »

Another day, another stream of consciousness vomitus from the ADs.

They're still twittering on about Corona satellites and obviously haven't found the site where you can source much more than the ones available the NRO site.

There's probably much to unpick in the nonsense they're yapping about the PLSS (though there is the obvious one where they suggest that moving into the shade will be an instant temperature drop inside the suit), but the main gem is where it is claimed that you have to launch from Vandenburg to get into polar orbit, and from Florida to get into an equatorial one.

The only reason you don't launch into equatorial orbit from Vandenburg is because (as SpaceX demonstrates on a regular basis) rockets explode, and it's not nice for people to have rocket parts land on them.

Many polar orbiting satellites have launched from Florida, you idiots.

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: SpaceCraft Fillms and the "Unedited" claim

« Last post by JayUtah on September 18, 2025, 12:01:22 PM »

And then this Clavius page is shown, which only states "film and video, unedited" - audio is not mentioned.

I haven't paid attention to Spacecraft Films in years, nor talked to Mark Gray in that long. While their DVDs contain some unedited film and video, they also contain edited video. If I recall correctly, there are sections of the EVAs in which periods where nothing happened has been edited out. The hours-long video is still there if you want to see it.

The statement at Clavius is not meant to elevate Spacecraft Films to the status of a primary source.

Any documentary serious about researching Apollo audio would rely on original audio tape dumps. File 572-AAA contains the lines in question (at around 1h in), of course the delays are correct and match the transcript scans.

Correct. Any commercial source of Apollo pictures and sound (aside from the designated contractors to NASA) is a secondary source.

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: SpaceCraft Fillms and the "Unedited" claim

« Last post by TippedIceberg on September 18, 2025, 11:11:49 AM »

It seems to be based on dubious research. To quote American Moon:

If there is one thing everybody agrees on, it's that the DVDs by Spacecraft Films are the only originals that can be used as reference for any kind of research.

They attempt to back up that claim by firstly showing a couple of debunker Paolo Attivissimo speeches. But in the clips, Paolo seems to be specifically talking about the reliability of Apollo video footage. And then this Clavius page is shown, which only states "film and video, unedited" - audio is not mentioned. 

Running with that, American Moon seems to hint the correctly-timed ALSJ audio was therefore edited to artificially insert delays. It can't possibly be the DVD audio that is cut down

In reality, Spacecraft Films likely removed the silences for runtime. There is no active TV transmission in the "delay too short" clips American Moon uses as examples.

Any documentary serious about researching Apollo audio would rely on original audio tape dumps. File 572-AAA contains the lines in question (at around 1h in), of course the delays are correct and match the transcript scans.