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General Discussion / Re: Recent Claim by Musk concerning hot 2nd stage start

« Last post by Zakalwe on October 15, 2024, 03:44:07 AM »

It was one hell of a test flight! Looks like there's a lot to do with the heatshield and preventing flap damage.

Also, time to stop funding the boondogle that is SLS? (not going to happen though...pork barrel politics and all that).

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General Discussion / Re: Recent Claim by Musk concerning hot 2nd stage start

« Last post by raven on October 15, 2024, 03:43:22 AM »

Long road still, there's a lot of damage to the vehicle that's going to impede rapid turn around as is stands, but getting that catch on the first try is damn impressive.
Come a long way from the Grasshopper, that's for sure, hanging "in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't."

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General Discussion / Re: Recent Claim by Musk concerning hot 2nd stage start

« Last post by bknight on October 14, 2024, 10:29:13 AM »

And now in flight 5 they caught the damn first stage, and videoed the splashdown of the second stage...

That suggests some pretty spectacular aiming.

Yes they had a very good flight and the FAA says no investigation warranted after the flight, onward and upward.

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General Discussion / Re: Recent Claim by Musk concerning hot 2nd stage start

« Last post by Peter B on October 13, 2024, 04:47:18 PM »

And now in flight 5 they caught the damn first stage, and videoed the splashdown of the second stage...

That suggests some pretty spectacular aiming.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by JayUtah on October 11, 2024, 09:55:37 AM »

I should add that the air museum where I sometimes volunteer has a bunch of old high-altitude cameras. Right now they're being restored to go into the collection alongside our SR-71 and our U-2. But one of them came with a magazine that had some old thin Estar base reconnaissance film still in it. It's amazing how absolutely thin and flimsy this stuff is compared to traditional film. It feels thinner than the material in a chips/crisps package.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by jfb on October 10, 2024, 05:56:56 PM »

The Corona photo reconnaissance satellites, unlike their Zenit counterparts in the USSR, were not pressurized and utilized film. If outgassing was an intractable issue, they also would have been affected.

Therefore, those images were also obviously faked.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by Peter B on October 09, 2024, 10:41:21 PM »

Yep, Dave McKeegan's videos are very good!

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by bknight on October 07, 2024, 07:55:11 PM »

I was curious about the "Apollo Detectives" a somewhat new group for me.  Well I Googled it and found a video discussing in part the same "issue" that we are discussing here.  Who are the "Apollo Detectives"?  In the video, an email from them lists Marcus Allen @17:44, Scott (AKA Glenn) Henderson and a third individual who I didn't write down in this ~hour video.

Seems like the Grifter Allen is back to his old tricks.  Anyway, the video gives a lot of information on the camera and film and the deceptions that the "Apollo Detectives"

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by JayUtah on October 07, 2024, 04:03:44 PM »

The Corona photo reconnaissance satellites, unlike their Zenit counterparts in the USSR, were not pressurized and utilized film. If outgassing was an intractable issue, they also would have been affected.

That's what the super thin Estar base and SO-135 emulsion were designed for. The degree and rate of outgassing depends on the amount of material present. The trick was for them to outgas rapidly and completely early in the mission, before it became an operational constraint.

The lunar surface Hasselblad magazines were kept in the MESA, and were not sealed. There was a darkslide, but that is not gas tight. The magazines had 80 hours or so in hard vacuum to acclimate and complete their outgassing prior to being used.

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The Hoax Theory / Re: Film Outgassing

« Last post by raven on October 07, 2024, 05:34:07 AM »

The Corona photo reconnaissance satellites, unlike their Zenit counterparts in the USSR, were not pressurized and utilized film. If outgassing was an intractable issue, they also would have been affected.