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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by onebigmonkey on March 30, 2025, 11:45:34 AM »
Oh dear, Jarrah isn't happy about the above posts.

Apparently I  know that I'm lying when I document his claims about the 3 legged lander. I have stated that his three legged claims were based on the low resolution images. That is true, that's what I said. He points out that he did a follow up article that "proves" that even the higher resolution RAW images show a three legged lander and that they have been altered.

Here's the thing Jarrah, because I know you'll be reading this: You have proved nothing, and the OHRC images show 4 legged descent stages. I was one of the first people outside ISRO to download and process those RAW images. They show Apollo 11 and 12 hardware exactly as they should be. You have no evidence that they have been in any way altered. Not one bit.

Attached is Apollo 11's descent stage, with each of its 4 legs identified, as well as the shadow from the leg that you don't seem able to see.

I'm not a liar Jarrah, I just think your ill-though out badly evidenced claims are bullshit. I also don't need your permission to quote you however I see fit .
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by onebigmonkey on March 27, 2025, 05:01:26 PM »
They don't update the OHRC as often, and there are 212 pages of images from it compared with 20000+ pages from TMC. That said, there are 3 TMC cameras and also some DEM/orthphoto pairs, so there is more to go at.

As best I can tell, the OHRC views of Apollo 11 & 12 were aimed at calibrating the cameras and so on, which are designed to work in lower light conditions at the poles, so they aren't routinely getting Apollo sites.

Jarrah's 3 legged claim is entirely based on the low resolution screen grabs used in webinars prior to the full image release. He claims NASA shenanigans, but the file naming convention shows they came down through Bangalore and India's own DSN..

The most stupid claim is Rasa's, who claims that NASA bullied ISRO into photoshopping a 'proper' LM into the images after they accidentally used images showing a three legged probe there.

He gets really annoyed if you point out to him that high resolution views were shown in a web presentation 3 months before the only one he knew about, and he'll delete comments telling him that because he's a dishonest moron.
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General Discussion / Re: NASA is lying for Trump
« Last post by LunarOrbit 🇨🇦 on March 27, 2025, 03:02:02 PM »
She was formerly the press secretary for Sen. Ted Cruz.

Ol' Lying Ted. That explains a lot.

He was born in Canada, wasn't he? Maybe the Canadian government should offer him the position of Governor-General when it becomes vacant?  ;)

We disavow that man. Lol
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by BertieSlack on March 27, 2025, 12:54:52 PM »
From a batch of files released over the weekend, Chandrayaan 2's nadir TMC sees Apollo 11, as imaged on February 7 this year.

Will there be OHRC images taken at the same time, or does Chandrayaan-2 not work like that?
I really want an OHRC image of Tranquility Base with the sun high in the sky or low in the east, then we can really go to town on Jarrah's moronic 3-legged lander claim.
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General Discussion / Re: NASA is lying for Trump
« Last post by Peter B on March 27, 2025, 01:09:37 AM »
She was formerly the press secretary for Sen. Ted Cruz.

Ol' Lying Ted. That explains a lot.

He was born in Canada, wasn't he? Maybe the Canadian government should offer him the position of Governor-General when it becomes vacant?  ;)
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General Discussion / Re: NASA is lying for Trump
« Last post by Obviousman on March 26, 2025, 05:06:54 PM »
It is both fascinating and horrifying to watch the deconstruction of the US Government. We now have a normally non-partisan department deliberately lying for the President... and lies that can easily be proven wrong. Yet you tell a lie often enough, the people still lap it up, Trump continues his lies, and the US marches on to be the Fourth Reich.
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General Discussion / Re: NASA is lying for Trump
« Last post by LunarOrbit 🇨🇦 on March 26, 2025, 12:57:37 PM »
She was formerly the press secretary for Sen. Ted Cruz.

Ol' Lying Ted. That explains a lot.
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General Discussion / Re: NASA is lying for Trump
« Last post by JayUtah on March 26, 2025, 12:51:36 PM »
Bethany Stevens took over as NASA press secretary on 10 March 2025. She was formerly the press secretary for Sen. Ted Cruz.
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General Discussion / NASA is lying for Trump
« Last post by LunarOrbit 🇨🇦 on March 26, 2025, 11:33:20 AM »
NASA is now shamefully lying for Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nasa-reveals-astronauts-return-would-not-have-happened-without-trumps-intervention

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NASA spokeswoman Bethany Stevens credited President Donald Trump for securing the return of two astronauts stranded for more than nine months on the International Space Station.

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"This is a huge win for the Trump administration. And it would not have happened without President Trump's intervention." Stevens said.

To be clear, the decision to make Butch and Suni a part of Crew 9 and return them in February or March of 2025 was made last year, before Trump was re-elected, because it was the most practical option. There was no political advantage for Joe Biden or Kamala Harris to delay their return... it would have been far more advantageous for them to move heaven and Earth to return them sooner.

Making Butch and Suni part of Crew 9 was a smart, efficient, and fiscally responsible decision... something that you would think Elon Musk, head of DOGE, would appreciate.

The whole idea that the astronauts were trapped at the ISS for political reasons is utter nonsense. It is just an example of how people fluff Trump's ego, and it is a really damaging move by NASA who has already had to defend their credibility for decades over stupid conspiracy theories.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Last post by onebigmonkey on March 25, 2025, 09:42:32 AM »
Same view from the aft camera. As with the nadir view I did some HDR toning to bring out detail, but it's easily seen without it. The map viewer for Chandrayaan didn't update until today, so I missed the second view (I used the shape files in Google Moon, which aren't perfect).
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