A flat Earth thread for Tradosaurus

[Sus_pilot]

Hey troll why are you evading why a ship approaching only has the top visible and as it gets closer more of the ship is visible from the top down?

I second the challenge. Answer the question.

While you're at it, why does the wind shift to the right as you climb in the Northern Hemisphere?  I'm still waiting to read your explanation.

[gillianren]

ETA: I note, in passing, that both of these problems (and a couple of others) are set in the southern hemisphere, where FE map distortions are at their greatest. These sorts of things might not be noticed by people living in temperate northern latitudes who don't think much about their southern hemispherian cousins, but they're particularly noticeable to us.

I noticed that myself.  I really do believe that there's no possible way flat Earth belief could have survived the Age of Exploration even leaving aside the whole "circumnavigation" thing.  The more time spent in the Southern Hemisphere, the less sense it makes.  And, I suppose, vice versa, if you're starting in the Southern Hemisphere.

Let me guess. Based on the illustrations above "Proofs" 197 and 198, is it The Jews?

[sidetrack] Snazzy effect!  [/sidetrack]

[Dalhousie]

1. Flight paths between Australia and Chile and between Australia and South Africa. You claim (via the "200 Proofs" book) that these flights travel via locations in the northern hemisphere, yet I and others have pointed out that there are direct flights between these countries which remain in the southern hemisphere. I've also pointed out that the direct flight from Sydney to Santiago takes less time than a direct flight from Sydney to Los Angeles which is, according to your map, barely half way on the journey from Sydney to Santiago. Please explain this contradiction.

2. Travel distances within Australia. According to your Flat Earth map, Australia is about four times wide (east-west) as it is tall (north-south). Globe-based maps show Australia as being about 50% wider than it is tall. When comparing travel distances EW and NS in Australia (for example, Sydney-Perth and Sydney-Brisbane), they match globe-based maps, not the FE map. Please explain this discrepancy.

I have flown all those routes, or ones very similar..... (Sydney-LA, Santiago-Melbourne, Townsville-Perth, Sydney-Darwin).  No space-time dilation observed......

[bknight]

ETA: I note, in passing, that both of these problems (and a couple of others) are set in the southern hemisphere, where FE map distortions are at their greatest. These sorts of things might not be noticed by people living in temperate northern latitudes who don't think much about their southern hemispherian cousins, but they're particularly noticeable to us.

I noticed that myself.  I really do believe that there's no possible way flat Earth belief could have survived the Age of Exploration even leaving aside the whole "circumnavigation" thing.  The more time spent in the Southern Hemisphere, the less sense it makes.  And, I suppose, vice versa, if you're starting in the Southern Hemisphere.

Let me guess. Based on the illustrations above "Proofs" 197 and 198, is it The Jews?

[sidetrack] Snazzy effect!  [/sidetrack]

Other than our "friend" as his Looney Toons friends on YT and a few forums.  They always have to stand out as individuals as "real" critical thinkers.

[Dalhousie]

the Antennas are used to broadcast over a flat earth as the British did in the early 20th century before the fiction of satellites were dreamed.

LOL indeed.  The first artificial satellites were thought of in 1687 by Newton. The next description was by Rev Hale in 1869.  Quite a while before the 20th century!

[Count Zero]

Let me guess. Based on the illustrations above "Proofs" 197 and 198, is it The Jews?

[gillianren]

Other than our "friend" as his Looney Toons friends on YT and a few forums.  They always have to stand out as individuals as "real" critical thinkers.

Yeah, I probably should have clarified.  It wouldn't survive among people objectively considering evidence.

Oh, and to avoid the distraction on the other thread, my version of the Godhead, too, is exemplified by the observable universe.  It is a divinity of great wonder, shaping what we see by rules we can process by paying attention.  Flat Earthers aren't paying attention.

[carpediem]

If you want to learn real science read or watch, Dr. Judy D. Wood, who is a former professor of mechanical engineering with research interests in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, optical methods, deformation analysis, and the materials characterization of biomaterials and composite materials.

Is she a flat earther too?

[HeadLikeARock]

If you want to learn real science read or watch, Dr. Judy D. Wood, who is a former professor of mechanical engineering with research interests in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, optical methods, deformation analysis, and the materials characterization of biomaterials and composite materials.

She talks about energy technology that was used to bring down the twin towers.

Ah, Judy Wood. Dear Judy has an air of being perpetually bamboozled by simple solutions, and seems blind to the elephants in her living room.

Steel beams turning to dust in mid air? No, Judy. Concrete and drywall breaking up and creating dust. We've also got falling beam and struts suffering from mpeg motion artefaction. 

Spires turning to dust? No, Judy. Spires falling down, and some of the debris already on the spire being left behind. Not a space beam that has just melted all the steel in the building apart from this one column, until the guy in the satellite peers through his sniper-scope to survey the aftermath of his work and says "Shoot! Missed a column. Hang on... Pew pew! Yup, that got it".

Toasted cars showing odd patterns of burning? Just Google "burnt out cars" Judy for examples.

I've got more time for flat Earthers than Judy Wood supporters. At least flat Earthers know they're wrong and are just treating it as an intellectual debating exercise. Anyone falling for Judy Wood's garbage is firmly in the "so open-minded their brains have fallen out" brigade.

[DonQuixote]

Oh, and to avoid the distraction on the other thread, my version of the Godhead, too, is exemplified by the observable universe.  It is a divinity of great wonder, shaping what we see by rules we can process by paying attention.  Flat Earthers aren't paying attention.

For me, the universe is basically a thought in the mind of the Godhead, perhaps even just one of an infinite series of them - all just "what if?"s in the mind of the Creator.

[smartcooky]

the Antennas are used to broadcast over a flat earth as the British did in the early 20th century before the fiction of satellites were dreamed.

LOL indeed.  The first artificial satellites were thought of in 1687 by Newton. The next description was by Rev Hale in 1869.  Quite a while before the 20th century!

Not to mention Arthur C. Clarke's October 1945 article on communications satellites.....

http://lakdiva.org/clarke/1945ww/1945ww_305.jpg

... 12 years before Sputnik!

[tradosaurus]

If you want to learn real science read or watch, Dr. Judy D. Wood, who is a former professor of mechanical engineering with research interests in experimental stress analysis, structural mechanics, optical methods, deformation analysis, and the materials characterization of biomaterials and composite materials.

She talks about energy technology that was used to bring down the twin towers.

Ah, Judy Wood. Dear Judy has an air of being perpetually bamboozled by simple solutions, and seems blind to the elephants in her living room.

Steel beams turning to dust in mid air? No, Judy. Concrete and drywall breaking up and creating dust. We've also got falling beam and struts suffering from mpeg motion artefaction. 

Spires turning to dust? No, Judy. Spires falling down, and some of the debris already on the spire being left behind. Not a space beam that has just melted all the steel in the building apart from this one column, until the guy in the satellite peers through his sniper-scope to survey the aftermath of his work and says "Shoot! Missed a column. Hang on... Pew pew! Yup, that got it".

Toasted cars showing odd patterns of burning? Just Google "burnt out cars" Judy for examples.

I've got more time for flat Earthers than Judy Wood supporters. At least flat Earthers know they're wrong and are just treating it as an intellectual debating exercise. Anyone falling for Judy Wood's garbage is firmly in the "so open-minded their brains have fallen out" brigade.

You mean you are not impressed with Dr. Judy's credentials like you are impressed with the credentials of nasa scientists and stephen hawkings? 

Your blind defense of the globe earth and refusal to see reality is more proof that the globe earth is a religion with gravity as its god.   If the powers that be can brainwash people into thinking the globe earth is real they can brainwash people to believe 9/11 was committed by a bunch of ignorant goat herders. 

[bknight]

Trad, you still haven't answered my question,

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1067.msg36967#msg36967

Edit: Spelling

[raven]

Your blind defense of the globe earth and refusal to see reality is more proof that the globe earth is a religion with gravity as its god.   If the powers that be can brainwash people into thinking the globe earth is real they can brainwash people to believe 9/11 was committed by a bunch of ignorant goat herders.

Which you have yet to give any motive for beyond vague hand waving about 'power and money' with no explanation how creating a globe Earth delusion does that.
The Apollo hoax conspiracy theory has a better motive, show up the Soviets, though it is still discredited by the fact that, if the US cared enough to hoax, the USSR would care enough to reveal the hoax, and that going would fulfil the same goals with far less risk of political suicide.
It doesn't take a lot of  knowledge to learn to fly a plane well enough to crash it into something (just ask the late Imperial Japanese air force) and killing people with knives in close quarters is not exactly rocket science.
You are just being a racist little shit stain, which, given your other intellectual crimes, is hardly surprising.

[Allan F]

Your blind defense of the globe earth and refusal to see reality is more proof that the globe earth is a religion with gravity as its god.   If the powers that be can brainwash people into thinking the globe earth is real they can brainwash people to believe 9/11 was committed by a bunch of ignorant goat herders.

A bunch of ignorant goat herders with pilots licences and (for some) advanced degrees.