Radiation

[AtomicDog]

I am sure until I brought the subject up, most of you were unaware that moon dust was a health hazard due to it's radioactive alpha particle content.

My bold. So the moon dust contains alpha particle and the alpha particles are radioactive. Words have meanings, and you don't know what they mean.

Holy moly, he did it AGAIN! After all that back and forth last night, he up and does it again! PROVING that he REALLY knows nothing about basic nuclear physics, and thinks that he can bluff his way with a quick Google.

[Abaddon]

Hey guys I have a question about radiation which stems from a discussion I have had with a guy on a Facebook group. He contends that the daily dose of radiation from a LEO mission should be magnitudes lower than the daily disease of any of the Apollo lunar missions. He comments that with the VAN protecting us etc and the fact that radiation outside of this and on the surface of the moon is much higher than it is inside the VAN for LEO missions why are the daily dose inside the LEO missions not much lower than the moon missions

This is all oddly like your trajectory on cosmoquest. And tim's. Odd that.

ETA: Read this. http://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?166821-Moon-Landing-Question

and tell me it isn't some playbook.

[nomuse]

Yeah, that's another disheartening thing.

Every now and then you run across a hoax believer who seems well-spoken. They give the appearance of sufficient understanding of a subject to advance an argument. You engage in hopes of seeing that argument evolve.

Only to find they never move from their starting point. Eventually you run into their trail somewhere else, and realize that their practiced ease was, indeed, borne of practice. Of long rehearsal. It only looks smooth because they have rambled through it so many times some of the corners have worn off.

[nomuse]

Hey guys I have a question about radiation which stems from a discussion I have had with a guy on a Facebook group. He contends that the daily dose of radiation from a LEO mission should be magnitudes lower than the daily disease of any of the Apollo lunar missions. He comments that with the VAN protecting us etc and the fact that radiation outside of this and on the surface of the moon is much higher than it is inside the VAN for LEO missions why are the daily dose inside the LEO missions not much lower than the moon missions

This is all oddly like your trajectory on cosmoquest. And tim's. Odd that.

ETA: Read this. http://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?166821-Moon-Landing-Question

and tell me it isn't some playbook.

Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Gillianren, tell me if you are seeing the same thing I'm seeing. Do you also get a sense of someone putting on a style of writing which is not natural to them?

[AtomicDog]

I noticed this a while back. The only conclusions that made sense to me were either a tag team or the smell of socks.

[nomuse]

Reading thread.

I kinda like "VARB is like a HEPA filter." Just not the way it was intended. It isn't that space outside is very, very dirty. What the VARB is....is a dirty filter.

[bknight]

This may or may not have been linked but I read it today and a lot of the language and ideas seem like tim's

http://www.apollophotos.ch/media/6314092c889dd380ffff8266a426365.pdf

I fixed the link.

[Abaddon]

Hey guys I have a question about radiation which stems from a discussion I have had with a guy on a Facebook group. He contends that the daily dose of radiation from a LEO mission should be magnitudes lower than the daily disease of any of the Apollo lunar missions. He comments that with the VAN protecting us etc and the fact that radiation outside of this and on the surface of the moon is much higher than it is inside the VAN for LEO missions why are the daily dose inside the LEO missions not much lower than the moon missions

This is all oddly like your trajectory on cosmoquest. And tim's. Odd that.

ETA: Read this. http://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?166821-Moon-Landing-Question

and tell me it isn't some playbook.

Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Gillianren, tell me if you are seeing the same thing I'm seeing. Do you also get a sense of someone putting on a style of writing which is not natural to them?

I could write you the script.

[Abaddon]

This may or may not have been linked but I read it today and a lot of the language and ideas seem like tim's

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=1444.1665;last_msg=45127

Dude, your link is messed up.

[Abaddon]

Hey guys I have a question about radiation which stems from a discussion I have had with a guy on a Facebook group. He contends that the daily dose of radiation from a LEO mission should be magnitudes lower than the daily disease of any of the Apollo lunar missions. He comments that with the VAN protecting us etc and the fact that radiation outside of this and on the surface of the moon is much higher than it is inside the VAN for LEO missions why are the daily dose inside the LEO missions not much lower than the moon missions

This is all oddly like your trajectory on cosmoquest. And tim's. Odd that.

ETA: Read this. http://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?166821-Moon-Landing-Question

and tell me it isn't some playbook.

Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Gillianren, tell me if you are seeing the same thing I'm seeing. Do you also get a sense of someone putting on a style of writing which is not natural to them?

More oddity. Benparry claims to want to address timfinch but not only fails to do so, simply vanishes while tim posts crap over and over. Ben is suddenly uninterested. Why is that?

[MBDK]

I know timfinch has problems reading them, but I did find this graph (figure Number 2) that conclusively shows the lunar surface dose rate for Apollo 11 to be less than 5cGy/year -
http://prediccs.sr.unh.edu/papers/schwadron2011JE003978.pdf

That means less than 50mGy/year and less than 1mGy/week.  This computes to less than .143mGy/day.

So, timfinch, now that you have your requested data, do you concede that your assumptions regarding the dose rates experienced by Apollo 11 were incorrect?

[AtomicDog]

Hey guys I have a question about radiation which stems from a discussion I have had with a guy on a Facebook group. He contends that the daily dose of radiation from a LEO mission should be magnitudes lower than the daily disease of any of the Apollo lunar missions. He comments that with the VAN protecting us etc and the fact that radiation outside of this and on the surface of the moon is much higher than it is inside the VAN for LEO missions why are the daily dose inside the LEO missions not much lower than the moon missions

This is all oddly like your trajectory on cosmoquest. And tim's. Odd that.

ETA: Read this. http://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthread.php?166821-Moon-Landing-Question

and tell me it isn't some playbook.

Oh, dear. Oh, dear. Gillianren, tell me if you are seeing the same thing I'm seeing. Do you also get a sense of someone putting on a style of writing which is not natural to them?

More oddity. Benparry claims to want to address timfinch but not only fails to do so, simply vanishes while tim posts crap over and over. Ben is suddenly uninterested. Why is that?

For someone who says that he has engaged timfinch on the radiation issue, he has demonstrated even less knowledge of the subject.

[nomuse]

Yeah...the pilot fish routine is really obvious when you see it repeated.

Remember Doctor Socks? His increasingly outrageous disguises, as if the size of the mustache could distract from the unconscious habits of speech?



Speaking of...up to post #172 at CosmoWhatever and apparently the submarine has beached.

[bknight]

This may or may not have been linked but I read it today and a lot of the language and ideas seem like tim's

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=1444.1665;last_msg=45127

Dude, your link is messed up.

You are correct, sorry.  I fixed the link

http://www.apollophotos.ch/media/6314092c889dd380ffff8266a426365.pdf

[Abaddon]

Yeah...the pilot fish routine is really obvious when you see it repeated.

Remember Doctor Socks? His increasingly outrageous disguises, as if the size of the mustache could distract from the unconscious habits of speech?



Speaking of...up to post #172 at CosmoWhatever and apparently the submarine has beached.

Yeah...the pilot fish routine is really obvious when you see it repeated.

Remember Doctor Socks? His increasingly outrageous disguises, as if the size of the mustache could distract from the unconscious habits of speech?



Speaking of...up to post #172 at CosmoWhatever and apparently the submarine has beached.

Remember I called Doctor Socks office?