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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2021, 01:48:24 PM »
That Apollo 11 image is actually really good, but you know what the HBs are going to say, where are the footprints? I would reckon that no argument about light angles, size or resolution would placate them.

To say it's a screengrab of a powerpoint presentation slide it holds up very well against the LRO's shots of the same place.

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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2021, 09:16:06 AM »
That Apollo 11 image is actually really good, but you know what the HBs are going to say, where are the footprints? I would reckon that no argument about light angles, size or resolution would placate them.

The are several LRO photos of the Apollo 11 landing. The astronaut foot-trails seem much more visible in the those photos taken when the sun is high in the sky above Tranquillity. The sun is low in the Chandrayaan 2 image.

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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2021, 02:32:26 AM »
Very much looking forward to them releasing the actual files.

Jarrah White couldn't wait for the actual files and has posted a 'debunk' on the Aulis website. Apparently Eagle only has 3 legs.

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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2021, 06:45:16 AM »
Very much looking forward to them releasing the actual files.

Jarrah White couldn't wait for the actual files and has posted a 'debunk' on the Aulis website. Apparently Eagle only has 3 legs.

What an effing arse-clown!
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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2021, 11:27:29 AM »
Very much looking forward to them releasing the actual files.

Jarrah White couldn't wait for the actual files and has posted a 'debunk' on the Aulis website. Apparently Eagle only has 3 legs.

Predictions on the response when it 's ery obviously a four legged lander when they release the files?

I'm going with "Yeah well they added it afterwards after I spotted their mistake."

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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2021, 12:20:06 PM »
Very much looking forward to them releasing the actual files.

Jarrah White couldn't wait for the actual files and has posted a 'debunk' on the Aulis website. Apparently Eagle only has 3 legs.

Predictions on the response when it 's ery obviously a four legged lander when they release the files?

I'm going with "Yeah well they added it afterwards after I spotted their mistake."
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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2021, 12:52:00 PM »
As with Apollo 11, an OHRC view of Apollo 12's site has also been released via a webinar.

Another chunk of TMC images were released yesterday, but again no new coverage of Apollo sites there.


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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2025, 01:45:59 PM »
From a batch of files released over the weekend, Chandrayaan 2's nadir TMC sees Apollo 11, as imaged on February 7 this year.

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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2025, 07:05:00 PM »
From a batch of files released over the weekend, Chandrayaan 2's nadir TMC sees Apollo 11, as imaged on February 7 this year.
Obviously faked. They put a mock lander on the Moon where the 'real' one is supposed to be, just in case anyone tried to come along and take photos.
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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2025, 09:42:32 AM »
Same view from the aft camera. As with the nadir view I did some HDR toning to bring out detail, but it's easily seen without it. The map viewer for Chandrayaan didn't update until today, so I missed the second view (I used the shape files in Google Moon, which aren't perfect).

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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2025, 12:54:52 PM »
From a batch of files released over the weekend, Chandrayaan 2's nadir TMC sees Apollo 11, as imaged on February 7 this year.

Will there be OHRC images taken at the same time, or does Chandrayaan-2 not work like that?
I really want an OHRC image of Tranquility Base with the sun high in the sky or low in the east, then we can really go to town on Jarrah's moronic 3-legged lander claim.

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Re: Chandrayaan-2 views Apollo
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2025, 05:01:26 PM »
They don't update the OHRC as often, and there are 212 pages of images from it compared with 20000+ pages from TMC. That said, there are 3 TMC cameras and also some DEM/orthphoto pairs, so there is more to go at.

As best I can tell, the OHRC views of Apollo 11 & 12 were aimed at calibrating the cameras and so on, which are designed to work in lower light conditions at the poles, so they aren't routinely getting Apollo sites.

Jarrah's 3 legged claim is entirely based on the low resolution screen grabs used in webinars prior to the full image release. He claims NASA shenanigans, but the file naming convention shows they came down through Bangalore and India's own DSN..

The most stupid claim is Rasa's, who claims that NASA bullied ISRO into photoshopping a 'proper' LM into the images after they accidentally used images showing a three legged probe there.

He gets really annoyed if you point out to him that high resolution views were shown in a web presentation 3 months before the only one he knew about, and he'll delete comments telling him that because he's a dishonest moron.
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